imron Posted October 13, 2016 at 01:16 AM Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 at 01:16 AM Same here, 华西村 was what threw me on first listen (going in cold, without having looked at the transcripts). I think if I was listening to something with more context, it wouldn't have been a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmayo Posted October 13, 2016 at 06:41 AM Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 at 06:41 AM Okay, well I'm glad I posted the audio, I don't feel so bad about struggling with it, and I can see that if using the textbooks the way they were intended, they would indeed be suitable for second-year students. I'm also happy that used the way I intend to use them, including looping difficult passages until I understand them, and falling back on the transcripts when necessary, this old series and its cassettes will keep me busy for a couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Posted October 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM Haven't read all the posts, but I remember that this was the kind of listening exercise that occasionally almost made me cry because for the life of me I couldn't follow it, not the first time around and not after an hour of class either. BLCU, my third year of learning Chinese. Even now I'd have to listen at least twice, and I at least have some idea what 华西村 is. If you can't follow this, it doesn't necessarily mean that your listening sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted October 13, 2016 at 11:45 AM Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 at 11:45 AM Hey, Realmayo, put another of those up, then we all have to listen JUST ONCE and say what we think we heard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted October 13, 2016 at 12:27 PM Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 at 12:27 PM This thread has been helpful to me because it has opened my eyes to doing something similar to what Realmayo has undertaken. Namely specifically targeting increasing my ability to understand newscasts. It is now on my list of projects for 2017. Thanks. It's so easy to get lazy after a certain point and just unconsciously think "my Chinese is good enough," when actually it's still crap. Complacency is a disease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmayo Posted October 13, 2016 at 12:38 PM Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 at 12:38 PM ok here you go: news2.mp3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmayo Posted October 13, 2016 at 12:40 PM Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 at 12:40 PM this was the kind of listening exercise that occasionally almost made me cry For me, when it comes to any kind of language exercise, listening ones seem to be physically the most unpleasant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted October 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM Ok, the second one Also, 100 and something companies have opened up subsidiaries overseas. Investment of over 300m yuan. Opening up new markets, creating conditions for growth, something like that? Listening again... Ha, missed this was still 乡镇企业。 110. Is that 实体企业？ Missed when it started talking about a specific Zhejiang firm and the 'directly participating in international competition' bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atongmu Posted October 14, 2016 at 05:06 AM Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 05:06 AM thanks, I really enjoyed this. It was very challenging but great practice. I am new to the forum. do you guys often do these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calibre2001 Posted October 14, 2016 at 09:23 AM Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 09:23 AM Out of curiosity, which HSK level does this audio & book correspond to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmayo Posted October 14, 2016 at 09:44 AM Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 09:44 AM www.hschinese.com = spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmayo Posted October 14, 2016 at 09:49 AM Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 09:49 AM Ha, missed this was still 乡镇企业。 Indeed! It's a vicious one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted October 14, 2016 at 10:12 AM Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 10:12 AM Removed the spam. And a pox on anyone who thinks 'oh, they're doing a listening exercise, I'll immediately post a full transcript in plain view' So, 25 downloads and only me posting about it. Guess we have differing ideas of fun... Atongmu, no, but realmayo will be posting them weekly now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmayo Posted October 14, 2016 at 10:36 AM Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 10:36 AM Atongmu, no, but realmayo will be posting them weekly now. 为Rod民服务 Out of curiosity, which HSK level does this audio & book correspond to? The book was published in 2002 so well before the New HSK was introduced. I think second-year students using this course of Chinese textbooks in Chinese universities would be expecting to achieve Old HSK 5-6 which would probably put this around New HSK 4 or 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publius Posted October 14, 2016 at 11:03 AM Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 11:03 AM There's a very loooong prepositional phrase... 这为…………………………创造了条件。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingfa Posted October 14, 2016 at 11:47 AM Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 11:47 AM ^ The rest of it: 这为……浙江鄉鎮企業直接參與國際市場競爭 進一步拓展產品銷路以及獲得持續發展的動力……创造了条件。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingfunny Posted October 14, 2016 at 12:10 PM Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 12:10 PM Oh my God. Turns out I don't understand Chinese. I need some listening practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
li3wei1 Posted October 14, 2016 at 01:03 PM Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 01:03 PM Yeah, I could tell it was about business, but that was about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-F-J Posted October 14, 2016 at 01:10 PM Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 01:10 PM News reports are difficult to understand because they just rattle off lifeless syllables like a text-to-speech voice on speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmayo Posted October 14, 2016 at 02:42 PM Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 at 02:42 PM I agree, although I hope that doing intensive work on this type of audio will not just help me understand news reports better, but will give an uplift to my overall listening ability too. Another benefit of this being a second-year textbook is that I've already studied most of the vocabulary, which saves a lot of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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