[shibo77]

I enjoy architecture a lot. But I am always saddened by the fact that most ancient architecture of China did not survive. With good reason too, as the wooden pillars cannot stand the test of time. But I am really interested in ancient architecture of China. I tried to find a few websites about this, but nothing appears before Tang. The Epanggong, Weiyanggong, are there any recreations anywhere? How about the Song dynasty and Tang dynasty? Where are all the palaces, temples from the Three Kingdoms, Han, Qin, Zhou, Shang? I would appreciate any information. Thanks! 多谢!

- Shibo

[erhu]

we can get some idea of Han architecture by looking at models found in tombs - small scale house, farm buildings etc for the deceased to use in the afterlife. I think the idea here is that these show that Han dynasty builders were using techniques still in use until very recently.; the basic shape of the buildings doesn't change very much.

[39degN]

hope this help a little, actually japanese traditonal architecture keeps a lot of tan style, meanwhile after ming dynisty china architecture lost its beauty so much, or we could even say it happened in all kind of arts... so sad


http://www.guoxue.co...djz/tdjz001.htm

[shibo77]

多谢! Thanks a bunch! The link was nicely designed. There are so many in Yunan. I really need to travel there sometime. I know of using the models in Han graves to reconstruct a view of how architecture then looked. But it seems that scholarly work on the subject seems to be more advanced. Have you travelled to a place in 北京郊区 the suburban areas of Beijing. 北普陀电影城 Bei2 Pu3 Tuo2 Dian1 Ying3 Cheng2, they have some very beautifully designed palaces representing the architectural style of each dynasty. Han, Tang, Song are all I remember. They film movies and television dramas using these buildings. I'm sure the buildings were designed with much scholarly work done.

- Shibo

[39degN]

you are welcom.
i have never been there, but i do think architectures in film "heroes" are really beautiful.

[skylee]

In Hong Kong, there is a Chilin Nunnery (志蓮靜苑), which has been constructed according to Tang styles and using Tang techniques (all wooden and without nails, IIRC).

I think there are many similar structures (modern ones built in Tang styles) in Xi'an.

[shibo77]

Wa! It's beautiful, especially with the lights. I wonder if the Tang Imperial Palace looked similar to that. how good it would be if those palaces were never destoryed. It would do good to the tourist industry for one!

- Shibo

[shibo77]

大唐篇 Tang Dynasty 618-907CE

长安京城:Chang'an Jingcheng (Capital) modern Xi'an

http://ic.ucsc.edu/~naso/hist159a/LectureOutlines/imagesclassical/directionalspirits.jpg

http://edu.sina.com.cn/l/42-4-3883_changan.jpg

http://www.cctv.com/tvguide/jidi/zhuozhou/tangdai/tangcheng.jpg

http://www.cctv.com/tvguide/jidi/zhuozhou/tangdai/changan.jpg

http://www.cctv.com/tvguide/jidi/zhuozhou/tangdai/xuanyuan.jpg

http://www.cctv.com/tvguide/jidi/zhuozhou/tangdai/yangfu.jpg


- Shibo

[pazu]

As I remember, Chilin Nunnery (志蓮靜苑) was constructed with a reference to some architecture in Nara of Japan, which was once the capital and still preserves a large range of ancient Chinese architectures.

Old Chinese architectures seldom survives to this day not because they were made by wood, it was because the mentality of the new conquerors (most are Han Chinese themselves), who thought demolishing was the only way to let you forget the past, the Qianchao~ (previous dynasty).

I shouldn't use past tense if you know what I mean.

See what's Beijing now. Mao Zedong's sense of "architecture" was a full view of chimneys from Tian'anmen Square.

[skylee]

青龍 白虎 朱雀 玄武

俱往矣 (我在橫濱的唐人街見到竟然有朱雀門跟玄武門, 驚訝得笑起來.)

[chengdude]

Forget Yunnan or Xi'an; if you're into ancient architecture, get your butt to Shanxi Province. There, you'll find the two oldest wooden halls remaining in China, both dating to the T'ang: Nanchan Si near the town of Dong Ye and Foguang Si near the town of Dou Cun. You'll also find the Yingxian Mu Ta in Yingxian, the oldest wooden pagoda in China dating to the Liao. In Datong, you'll find Huayan Si with a hall dated to the Liao, and Shanhua Si with a hall dated to the Jin. In Taiyuan you'll find Jin Ci, a heavily rebuilt complex that nevertheless has a hall dating to the Song. Much more modern, but still impressive are the trio of Qing Dynasty manor homes: the Qiao Jia Da Yuan, the Wang Jia Da Yuan, and the Cao Jia Da Yuan. If you're a Guan Yu fan, then there's his ancestral temple outside Yuncheng, dated to the Jin but all Ming and Qing now. There are loads of other temples and pagodas of varying dates, and that's not even getting into art: Buddhist sculpture from the Wei through the Jin, paintings and frescoes from the T'ang, Song and Yuan, etc. etc.

[Xuan Yuan]

Foguang Si
http://www.ms.net.cn/daohang/jianzhu/zjjz/images/%E4%BD%9B%E5%85%89%E5%AF%BA.jpg
Nanchan Si
http://www.shanxi-china.com/english/sanjin/images/nanchan.gif
Hualin Si (From Song dynasty, it is the oldest surviving wooden structure in Southern China. Its architectural style later brought to Japan and heavily influenced the reconstructed Dongdaji Temple which is the largest wooden building in the world).
http://www.fuzhou.org.cn/lsmc/images/141.jpg

[holyman]

i have been to todaiji in japan and i dont think its the biggest wooden construction in the world. places like main building in the palace museum, the main hall of yonghe temple in beijing or the main hall of du'le temple(which housed a 16m tall wooden statue) in ji county, near tianjin, all seems to be larger than the main hall of todaiji.

[shibo77]

秦编 Qin Dynasty 350BCE-207BCE

咸阳:阿房宫 Xianyang:Epang Palace
http://chinese.pku.edu.cn/bbs/attachments/Djfm49_hst202_01b_pic.jpg

前殿, 上天台

http://www.chinatravel1.com/chinese/city/xian/images/jd/jd4-4.jpg

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_12823494//Yahoo!+Photo+Album/E_Pang_Gong---1.jpg?grTbRxABo1tJgojF

http://www.cnnb.com.cn/gb/node2/ly/lykx/node3034/images/00170991.jpg

渭河宫
http://www.cnnb.com.cn/gb/node2/ly/lykx/node3034/images/00170995.jpg


http://www.cnnb.com.cn/gb/node2/ly/lykx/node3034/images/00140291.jpg

祭地坛

http://www.cnnb.com.cn/gb/node2/ly/lykx/node3034/images/00170993.jpg

[Quest]

they need to work on the floor and the grass in these rebuilds. The buildings look great, but the floor and the grass look too modern.

[holyman]

these are movie grounds...

[kman9980]

What's everyones' favourite period architecture? Mine is that of the Tang. There's just something about the style that makes it extremely elegant!

Another thing I like about this kind of architecture is the 'horns' on the roof. Looking at it from a low angle from the front feels as if the building is alive looking down at you.