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Can we get a blue-suited avatar for the Facebook page? (I was thinking of making this a condition before I became fan, but I'm showing some good will here.)

Oh yeah, and is one of the real live member quotes from the guy who five minutes earlier requested his account and all his information to be deleted?

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No, I want to get us a proper logo. But I never getting around to doing that.

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I think I said something nice in the Restructuring-thread, you can add that if you want :-)

And for facebook, it doesn't have to be a picture of the site, just another Chinese-related picture will also be fine. It just looks a bit bare without any pic there.

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Have added a very very old logo from the depths of time.

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Looks good. And if you wait a bit longer it'll be up-to-date again :-)

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Logo? What logo? The logo is new? Where is it? What's Facebook?

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Some random stats for anyone interested:

Attached are a couple of maps showing visits from different cities in the US and China (actually East Asia I now notice), our two largest sources of visits. See if you can spot yourself.

June has been a pretty good month in terms of visitor numbers, with a significant bump in visitor numbers - just under 100,000 unique visitors, compared to just under 70,000 in May. Cause for this is hard to figure out - I know the majority of those are coming from Google, but why Google's lovin' us more I don't know - could be the recent reorganization had an impact, could be new incoming links, could just be some other relevant site dropped down for some reason. There's been a bit of a slump this week, but that's usual as summer hits.

Top search terms used to find the site:

chinese

chinese forums

chinese forum

sogou chinese input

chinese regents

chinese letter format

gmail china

chinese insults

sogou pinyin

chinese sponge cake recipe

Bottom search terms: (actually technically not the bottom, but close)

taobao

beijing bus route map

hsk vocab list

f4 meteor garden lyrics

language

eachnet in english

rosetta stone vs pimsleur

keats school kunming

the promise english subtitles

beijing teaching jobs

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but why Google's lovin' us more I don't know - could be the recent reorganization had an impact, could be new incoming links, could just be some other relevant site dropped down for some reason.

The kiddies are out of school (or procrastinating b4 finals) and googling for Chinese insults and spongecake, and of course Chinese-forums provides a wealth of information on both subjects, so who could really ask for more in a forum!

Have the # of new members spiked a bit during the month too then? Do you have charts showing the number of unique visitors and new members too? That would be interesting :mrgreen:

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Lemme see - new registrations were in the range 450-500 per month for the first five months of the year, then just under 600 for June. So another jump there. However, that includes, eg, spambots, so the June bump could be due to lots of people trying to sell viagra and cheap electronics.

Oh, and just for Imron - Pinyinput was downloaded 326 times in June.

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You run a great service, I have referred several people to this forum it, including Chinese people wanting to know more about the non Chinese people who are learning Chinese.

My request = when you have time could you update your maps to show where your subscribers are around the world, not just the USA and China.

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Attached, global map for April.

Figures generally keep nudging upwards. I'm not paying too much attention to the stats at the moment, but they seem healthy.

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I see many people are in my city Canberra, now I know that "I am not alone". - Actually Mandarin is taught in several schools and at the Universities here.

I guess these stats reflect the fact that in order to access the forum you need to be able to use English. Hmm, thinks. As far as I have seen there is not a lot out there in other languages in the way of comprehensive material for studying Chinese.

Attached is that chart report with easier to read colors.

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I guess these stats reflect the fact that in order to access the forum you need to be able to use English.

Then again I don't know of any study-Chinese-forums that use Chinese only.

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I meant from languages like Arabic, German, Russian, to Chinese.

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As far as I have seen there is not a lot out there in other languages in the way of comprehensive material for studying Chinese.
But would you know about it if there was? There is a good Chinese grammar book in Dutch, and at least one high school text book. Okay, not a wealth of material, but for the size of the language, it's not bad.

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There's a lot of Chinese learning material in Russian, the more well-known authors being В. И. Горелов (V. I. Gorelov), С. Е. Яхонтов (S. E. Yahontov) and Н. А. Спешнев (N. A. Speshnev). I'm assuming Atitarev would know more about them.

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Yep, there's also a lot in Japanese, much of it better than what you can get in English. Last time I went to Japan I splurged on Chinese learning materials written in Japanese, it's really a difference like day and night... So if you read Japanese, check it out!

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A pity, I don't read Japanese. But I am interested to know what materials there are in Japanese and what the difference is in the various approaches.

You said "night and day" could you explain when you have time ?

I know that I would like the idea of taking several books and audios that I have used and producing a really usable functional approach that combined examples in English, Hanzi and Pinyin and audio, together with relevant audio, and then in a section for each chapter going into a lot of depth of explanation of grammar and usage. It seems, in learning from English , you have to have 5 or 6 different texts/books in order to put all of this together and then you have the problem of the various books being out of phase with each other .

Maybe this now needs to be in another thread if people are interested in commenting.

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There's a lot of Chinese learning material in Russian, the more well-known authors being В. И. Горелов (V. I. Gorelov), С. Е. Яхонтов (S. E. Yahontov) and Н. А. Спешнев (N. A. Speshnev). I'm assuming Atitarev would know more about them.

Thanks, yes, I have heard but not used.

I used the ancient but quite popular Т.П. Задоенко, Х. Шуин - Основы китайского языка and Основной курс китайского языка. I also have a good small dictionary. I lost when I moved house a great dictionary of Stalin and Mao time, which had a lot of Mao and Stalin quotes, which would be fun to read now. It's outdated but has many examples sentences.

Well, English is still not so common in Russia - that's why the map shows very few Russian users here, so many Chinese learners in Russia frequent other forums, one is in my signature right now: Eastern Hemisphere (in case I change my signature). As I posted in other threads (about foreign students and about the year of the Chinese language in Russia), the interest to Chinese in Russia is very high.

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a really usable functional approach that combined examples in English, Hanzi and Pinyin and audio, together with relevant audio, and then in a section for each chapter going into a lot of depth of explanation of grammar and usage.
Doesn't Integrated Chinese do this? Haven't used it myself, but have seen it in passing. Now that I think of it, DeFrancis' books used this approach as well, except for the in-depth grammar explanations perhaps, but you can always pick up a grammar book for those.

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Philip, I wasn't so much talking about textbooks, though I have also seen a lot of that (also a lot of specialised textbooks). They just have a lot of specialised learning materials, about chengyu, about vocabulary, shadowing materials, conversations, differences between Japanese and Chinese vocabulary, different types of grammars etc. The market for Asian languages is just bigger in Japan than in the English-speaking countries, for obvious reasons.

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