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  2. Ditto my advice in this thread November 12, 2020: "Sincere advice: Don't waste your life sitting around twiddling your thumbs in the vain expectation China will re-open to you. Just assume it's over and make your plans based on what you can do, not what you can't." Advice which still stands today.
  3. @Jan Finster @alantin How is that successful strategy going? I hope you guys live in Shanghai. It seems like your comments have aged rather poorly, while mine remains pretty accurate. How much more does pursuing 0 COVID have fuck up the country for you tankies to take back your word? I'm curious Edit: @abcdefg @Jellyfish @vellocet you guys gave likes to those comments, have your opinions changed?
  4. I already read it, I actually warned those guys in my previous posts, but I they made fun of me and treated me with disdain. I remember how one of them was like: "0 COVID is a successful startegy, you are emotional, and I don't care how much you love China, how well you speak Chinese, or that you have been unfairly studying online for two years, you have to fuck off and stay out for COVID!" (I'm being hyperbolic, but the comment was pretty insensitive and lacking of empathy). My posts have aged pretty well, theirs on the other hand... well, let's just say I'm certainly 幸灾乐祸.
  5. TheBigZaboon

    LTL Mandarin School Singapore

    I apologize. I was having an unusually cranky morning. My great uncle Bobby WAS a plumber there for years and years, and I grew up in the shadow of Harvard, across the river in the Allston-Brighton area. And also, many of my early formal Chinese and Japanese courses were taken there in the summer school. But other than that, I have no rights to the name, and no real reason to jump to their defense. I hereby call for a truce, in return for which I'll keep my snide comments to myself. TBZ
  6. Obviously not based on my previous comment. 🙂 I've never been in China on one trip long enough to discover that. Most of my trips are two weeks or shorter. Only once was I there for three. Thank you for that information. (Please note that my comment was about the length of a semester in the USA as the post to which I was replying was making a comment about Harvard University.) I'm not a Harvard Professor, and I would not accept an appointment to Harvard if offered one. They went off the rails years ago.
  7. 大块头

    HSK 3.0 ... new, new HSK?

    I asked on Reddit to see if anybody there took the trial HSK 7-9 exam on Sunday, and one person replied. There was not a section that tested your handwriting ability, contrary to what the standards suggested. No 病句 questions were on the exam. There was a section that required you to arrange the paragraphs of an article into the correct order.
  8. A good book series indeed! You might be interested to know Prof. Zong-qi Cai has organised a free podcast on How to Read Chinese poetry based on the poetry set. It's in English and the poems are recited in English and Mandarin. It started in February and is now on episode 16 (War as a Theme in Early Popular Chinese Poetry). there is a dedicated website with the details and downloadable pdfs here : How to Read Chinese Poetry and there's even a Chinese Poetry Podcast Facebook group The podcasts can be found on Spotify, Ximalaya, Apple, Google and don't know how many more platforms. I'm already behind with the schedule but the podcasts I listened to were very helpful to internalize what I had read in the book.
  9. I am looking for the same if anyone can help out with MP3 files. There is no audio for sale. The original version of this book "Twenty Lectures on Chinese Culture" did have audio with it, as we used it for our class many years ago. If anyone by any chance has audio of either version, I would be very grateful. In general I am having difficulty finding good current learning materials with a lot of audio, and for the older materials audio is no longer available.
  10. Yes, we've talked about 小叔TV in the other thread. Not only is his voice good, but as here he usually focuses on everyday life on the streets.
  11. amytheorangutan

    What are the best practices for preparing HSK?

    I would guess if you study from the HSK books and then do a lot of mock and past exams that should do the trick?
  12. realmayo

    Really dull HSK textbook

    Definitely feels very top-down. Here's an absurd sentence from the first text in the HSK6 book I looked at. It includes the nouns for jacket, qipao, stereo, radio, faucet, buttons, socket, and device for prospecting for minerals! I initially thought I should partly-memorise these texts but now I've looked at them I really can't see the point.
  13. realmayo

    Really dull HSK textbook

    Interesting, thanks. I suppose it's not irrelevant that the Thought & Society book is subtitled "An advanced text for spoken Chinese."
  14. realmayo

    The How to Read Chinese Literature series

    It's a decent standalone resource: lots of poems, no in-depth context but still some brief comments on each.
  15. Sounds good. Maybe I'll add it to my order today. Thanks for the information and clarification. TBZ
  16. A few friends of mine are considering taking HSK test. I know that there are lots of successful Chinese language learners with this Forum, and many have successfully passed HSK. I am wondering what are the best methods, tools, or practices that help you pass HSK test? Thanks so much in advance.
  17. It's a really good book, but ONLY if you have the audio (so I'm glad OP is including it). The format is basically audio news reports with vocabulary lists, exercises, and discussion practice. There's no transcription of the reports in the book, which is why it's useless without the audio. I used this book to help prepare for TOCFL 5 ("Band C" in the current version of the test—the "band" system and level 6 didn't yet exist), and I think it's perfect for that level.
  18. This guy's video (shot yesterday) accurately shows the current situation in (central) Beijing. I was walking by this river last night, some popular sections require you to scan the qr to get to the sidewalk near the river. Fingers crossed things loosen rather than tighten in the coming weeks. I like his videos too, he's got a very pleasant voice and nice pronunciation, just right for intermediate level learners like myself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekUNhNDn190
  19. OneEye

    Really dull HSK textbook

    I actually didn't complete either book. After Thought and Society, I read maybe a dozen of the readings in The Independent Reader, but I didn't do it intensively or even systematically. More like, occasionally I'd open the book to a random article and read through it, maybe spend a day or two on it, and then put it aside for a while. By that point, I was auditing a graduate paleography course, applying for grad school, reading intro to 古文字學 books, doing some freelance translation, studying using movies and TV shows, etc. I had kind of burned myself out on textbooks, given how intensively I had been studying them at the time (3-4 textbooks at a time, 8+ hours a day), so I couldn't stomach doing any more of them. I didn't get a copy of Aspects of Life in Taiwan until I was already in grad school, when I met an ICLP student who offered to get me a copy from their bookstore. I basically got it to complete my collection. I've skimmed through some of the lessons, but never actually studied it seriously. As for whether they're suitable for the same approach, I'd say yes, but with the caveat that all of the texts in both books are unabridged published articles, so they'll tend more toward a written style than spoken. But still, much of the usage isn't outside what you might hear in a lecture or TEDx talk.
  20. TheBigZaboon


    @NinjaTurtle I'm sorry I missed your post when it was new. You've got the punch line right, but as any experienced comedian will attest to, it's all in how you set up that punch line. When a Japanese kid sets up this old gag for his or her friends, the set up goes something like this: The first kid writes 木 on a piece of paper, and then asks the audience to read it. Everyone will then respond "ki" for tree. Then the would-be comedian adds another tree to the first one, yielding 林, to which everyone responds "hayashi." This can mean either a small grove of trees, or the surname, Hayashi. Our budding straight man then adds a third tree, yielding 森, to which his now bored audience shouts "mori" in unison. This can signify either "forest" or the surname, Mori. Finally, the bottom line of "木木木" is added as in your illustration, producing a slew of wrong answers, or exclamations of "there's no such character..." from the audience. Then, and only then, will our hero, or heroine, reveal the answer you provided, 六本木, or Roppongi in romanization. I guess the only reason I wrote this all out, is in honor of the hundreds of kids belonging to my friends and colleagues, who over the years have tried this one out on me. Needless to say, I was duty-bound to fall for it every time. TBZ
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  22. Looks interesting. I assume that it's a book covering editorials and commentary on the news. Does anyone know anything about that? TBZ
  23. amytheorangutan

    Really dull HSK textbook

    What I don’t like about HSK books is that the texts just feel too artificial. Like they don’t care at all what it is about or what they write as long as they include all the words that need to be thought in each chapter. I find A Course in Contemporary Chinese texts to be more natural in introducing new grammar patterns and words, the topics are quite interesting like the popularity of plastic surgery, death penalty, surrogacy etc just feels more like real topics for adults no matter whether you are learning a language or not you’d probably still come across these topics in conversation.
  24. Hello everyone. I am selling brand-new copies of News and Views 新聞與觀點 (1.0) at a fixed price of 18 EUR. The textbook comes with original audio recordings. I am located in Slovenia, Europe. If interested, please contact me at [email protected] so we can discuss shipping costs to your location. Thank you.
  25. feihong

    The How to Read Chinese Literature series

    Related, I recently found this book: 唐诗百话, although I haven’t read much of it yet. It’s a selection of 100 Tang poems, with explanations in plain (Chinese) language. Is this workbook a good standalone resource, or does it rely heavily on How to Read Chinese Poetry?
  26. I bought some new books recently and don't think most of them have been mentioned here. They make up what's now called the 'How to Read Chinese Literature' series, either written or edited by Zong-qi Cai. How to Read Chinese Poetry (2008): Goes through each poetry era/style with lots of translated poems. A decent survey of Chinese classical poetry, whether you can read Chinese or not. Mentioned previously on these forums. How to Read Chinese Poetry Workbook (2012) A companion to the first book but for people who are learning to read Chinese poetry, so pinyin, vocabulary and modern Chinese translations accompany a new set of 100 Classical poems and their English translations. How to Read Chinese Poetry in Context (2018) Essays, all in English, on poetry from antiquity to the Tang. If you study western literature in the west you'd expect to read stuff like this. How to Read Chinese Prose (2022) Lots of classical Chinese prose pieces translated into English and then discussed, for what they mean, why they're so good etc. Don't need to be able to read Chinese. How to Read Chinese Prose in Chinese (2022) This is a kind of companion, for people studying Classical Chinese: more texts (and some that overlap), but this time the original Chinese text is the focus, with vocab and grammar notes as well as translations into modern Chinese and English. How to Read Chinese Drama (2022) Don't have this but seems to be an introduction/appreciation and anthology to Chinese drama, no Chinese required. Of these six books, three are subtitled "A Guided Anthology": How to Read Chinese Poetry, How to Read Chinese Prose, and How to Read Chinese Drama. I would say that How to Read Chinese Poetry Workbook and How to Read Chinese Prose in Chinese are the companions to the anthologies, for people who know some of, or are studying, the Classical language. That leaves How to Read Chinese Poetry in Context, which seems to be more designed to give you a thorough and almost more academic grounding in Chinese poetry and poetics. Early days cos I only bought most of these recently but I'm really happy to find so much material in English that's designed to give a real understanding of Chinese literature (rather than simply saying this is a famous poem and this is what it means). The two prose books in particular are a revelation! More details here: http://cup.columbia.edu/series/how-to-read-chinese-literature. And amazon lets you 'look inside' so see a preview.
  27. realmayo

    Really dull HSK textbook

    I keep wanting to go through the rest of the Independent Reader, but I'm still waiting to find a teacher, ideally an ICLP one, to work though it with. @OneEye One question for you, about the Aspects in Life book and the Independent Reader: did you study these the same way as Thought & Society (i.e. very intensive listening before anything else)? Are they both as suitable for that approach as Thought & Society?
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