What does c sound like?

[trien27]

Mr. Stinky

People don't naturally drop sounds as you said. It's because they try to imitate Mandarin using their own dialect, which doesn't provide the sh, or zh sounds. So 4 and 10 get mixed up a lot. They don't drop the g in words ending in ng. It's only because in Mandarin, there's no words ending in ng, so people tend to drop the last letter to make it sound more like they're speaking Mandarin. As for c/ts: the t is pronounced, but the s is louder. The t is in "the back of the throat"

Try to pronounce the Greek letter Khi, which most post people know as Chi. Now try to say Bach. In German, the ch in Bach is the same pronounciation as Greek Khi or the Hebrew "ch/h".

[mr.stinky]

i'm confused. aren't we saying the same thing, sorta? either they don't pronounce the

sound due to a certain combination not existing in their dialect, or they're speaking fast

and/or sloppy, or it's a local variation, or some other reason, the result is the same - it

doesn't sound the same as standard mandarin as taught to us furr'ners. without having to go into the reasons (why, for example, the h doesn't occur where there should be an sh), it's

enough to be aware that the pronunciation isn't quite correct if the reference is standard

mandarin. so if ten in standard is shi, but the locals say si, then the h just ain't there.

it helps my understanding to think it was dropped.

even more confused. no words ending in ng in mandarin?