dermur Posted August 27, 2007 at 10:53 AM Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 at 10:53 AM Any time I visit Dalian I see this fish in supermarkets, restaurants, etc. but no one I know can tell me what fish it is in English. They're usually pretty big too - about the size of a salmon but it's not trout, salmon, mackerel, sea bass, etc. Whatever it is, its very tasty though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liuzhou Posted August 28, 2007 at 02:15 AM Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 at 02:15 AM 鲃鱼 = Barbel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentyoung Posted August 28, 2007 at 04:52 AM Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 at 04:52 AM 鲅鱼(马鲛)：Spanish mackerel http://www.tzfishery.com/data/attach/P3vW_wu323tPjMQ==.jpg(picture) 大连人对鲅鱼食用颇有创意，有久负盛名的系列知名小吃，如鲅鱼水饺、鲅鱼丸子、鲅鱼烩饼子、熏鲅鱼、红烧鲅鱼等，已成大连的名吃，外地游客慕名来连，以争相品尝为快。尤其是鲅鱼氽丸汤，那真是丸香、汤鲜、味美的海鲜一绝，更是四季皆宜、老少皆宜、中外皆宜、食客同赞的人间美食。 http://cache.baidu.com/c?word=%F6%D1%D3%E3&url=http%3A//baike%2Ebaidu%2Ecom/view/153049%2Ehtm&p=882a954783d812a05ba2d13a7f4d&user=baidu Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liuzhou Posted August 28, 2007 at 05:17 AM Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 at 05:17 AM It's unlikely to be a Spanish mackerel.Have you seen the size of those things? Somewhat larger than a salmon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentyoung Posted August 28, 2007 at 05:26 AM Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 at 05:26 AM It's unlikely to be a Spanish mackerel.Have you seen the size of those things? Somewhat larger than a salmon! Sometimes, Spanish mackerel can be 100kg. 10月6日，在浙江省台州市椒江区的一个码头上，椒渔运595号船长李富国展示捕到的一条罕见的野马鲛。此马鲛长约1.9米，重100公斤，实属罕见。 http://cache.baidu.com/c?word=%C2%ED%F6%DE&url=http%3A//baike%2Ebaidu%2Ecom/view/964455%2Ehtm&p=99769a4690934eaf5aad883b5755&user=baidu Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dermur Posted August 28, 2007 at 09:23 AM Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 at 09:23 AM Thanks LiuZhou and StudentYoung! I have to say the barbel definitely looks like the fish I've seen in the supermarkets. The scales are very distinctive. Its funny, I had never heard of the English name either! I don't think barbel is very popular here in Ireland...! The Spanish mackerel looks too smooth and shiny - not to mention that it's as big as a whale!! Thanks again for your quick replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted September 4, 2007 at 04:41 AM Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 at 04:41 AM Barbel is a very common and popularly fished fish in the UK and Ireland. However, it's very rarely eaten. Barbel are fresh water fish found in the rivers. They fall into the group of 'course' fish along with carp, chub and so on. Usually after catching one of these, the angler will take a photo and then put the fish back in the water again. Seems like a waste of time to me. If you're not going to eat the thing, why bother catching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laolee Posted September 19, 2007 at 06:32 PM Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 at 06:32 PM Usually after catching one of these, the angler will take a photo and then put the fish back in the water again. Seems like a waste of time to me. If you're not going to eat the thing, why bother catching it. Fish like carp and catfish (don't know about barbel) are bottom feeders so if the waters are polluted they will consume heavy metals like mercury and pcb. If you eat the fish, you are eating what they eat. And then some people fish just for the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted September 19, 2007 at 10:23 PM Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 at 10:23 PM And then some people fish just for the sport I fish for sport...and that makes me hungry so I have some dinner after my victorious catch. Oh did I mention that the catch is the dinner? I have to agree that catch and release seems odd to me. I don't mind people doing it but I still do it for sport too. The fish just likes me less... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted September 20, 2007 at 07:52 AM Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 at 07:52 AM I can understand the pollution problem if catching fish from some large river within a city. For example I wouldn't eat anything that came out of the River Thames east of London. Nor would I take anything form the river Clyde in Glasgow. But where I see people fishing for barbel in the UK and Ireland is in crystal clear mountain lakes and lochs where there is absolutely no pollution of any kind. In the UK, course fish have a reputation for tasting muddy and so have gone out of fashion. But anyone who has eaten these fish in China (as the original poster will agree) will have found them to be quite delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liuzhou Posted September 20, 2007 at 07:57 AM Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 at 07:57 AM where there is absolutely no pollution of any kind. I would be deeply surprised if there is anywhere on the planet which has "absolutely no pollution". But you are right about the fish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dermur Posted October 3, 2007 at 08:26 PM Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 at 08:26 PM I'd agree - as much as I'd love to say that all of our lakes and rivers are crystal clear and unpolluted, the reality isn't quite the case. Compared to many European and other countries, Ireland and Scotland have cleaner water but, in Ireland anyway, many rivers and lakes are impacted by (a) woefully over-utilised sewage plants as a result of housing development, (B) spreading of manure on farmland and © other farming and industrial effluents. I'd love to see global water and air quality indices to put it all into perspective though! Do people fish much for recreation in China? The only recreational fishing I've seen so far has been in Dalian's Labour Park. It's literally "fish in a barrel" stuff where people pay a nominal fee to catch goldfish from various habitats ranging from a bucket to medium sized ponds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall_flagg Posted July 17, 2008 at 07:06 AM Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 at 07:06 AM There is quite a bit of recreational fishing going on here in Dalian. Fish are really small, but people (including me) eat anything they catch. Haven't been able to catch anything to write home about, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ai_ya Posted July 17, 2008 at 03:09 PM Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 at 03:09 PM Actually funnily enough, this reminds me of a small town about 2-3 hours by train north of Dalian called 鲅鱼圈！ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Zhiren Posted July 17, 2008 at 03:40 PM Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 at 03:40 PM Can anyone recommend a good encyclopedia of fish, complete with photos? I went up and down Wangfujing's bookstores and came up with nothing. I want to learn my fish in Chinese. Thanks. I'd like to see all 魚 listed: 甲魚, 魷魚, 鱷魚, etc. Perhaps I need to post this question under vocabulary or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted July 17, 2008 at 04:21 PM Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 at 04:21 PM This the sort of thing you're after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Zhiren Posted July 17, 2008 at 05:09 PM Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 at 05:09 PM imron, Thanks. I'll have to look at that some other way some time. My firewall prevents me from opening that link at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWatson Posted July 17, 2008 at 11:58 PM Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 at 11:58 PM While we're on the topic of fish and other sea beasts, what is the chinese for those sea worms or sea slugs that you see all over the place in Taiwan or San Francisco's Chinatown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted July 18, 2008 at 12:39 AM Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 at 12:39 AM My firewall prevents me from opening that link at the moment.Here are a couple of other links to try:http://hi.baidu.com/356074510/blog/item/ed038182f72b8b93f603a627.html http://www.21food.cn/news/spsc/showShouce.jsp?id=5984 The both contain the same list as above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liuzhou Posted July 18, 2008 at 02:43 AM Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 at 02:43 AM (edited) Here is another list This one is illustrated. May require proxy in China. Edited July 18, 2008 at 05:14 AM by liuzhou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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