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How many Characters in 3 yrs?


Mai Kairong

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I know that it varies wildly of course, but if you had to say a number, how many characters do you think a student should be able to read (that is, know pronunciation and meaning in at least one context) after 3 years of Chinese at an American or other Western University?

Again, I know there is no magic number. I just want some opinions.

Thanks!

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how long is a piece of string?

But seriously it varies wildly based on effort put in, retention ability and practice time spent... I would have no idea how many I know after 3 years at uni... it seems that I only know how many I dont know... sigh.

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But seriously it varies wildly based on effort put in, retention ability and practice time spent
More than anything, I think it depends on consistency. 3 characters a day (which for most people will be quite a slow and easy pace) every day for 3 years would equal over 3,000 characters. The difficulty lies not in learning the characters, but rather in doing it every day.
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If you look at the HSK website, you'll see that a number of words (not characters) is given for each level. Many people taking degrees at western universities are also taking HSK exams, so you could work backwards for a typical number and also be able to compare it to what people achieve from Chinese degree courses.

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More than anything, I think it depends on consistency. 3 characters a day (which for most people will be quite a slow and easy pace) every day for 3 years would equal over 3,000 characters. The difficulty lies not in learning the characters, but rather in doing it every day.

Yes I agree Imron, I should have been more clear as this is what I meant by practice time spent... I should have added consistently...

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I would be more interested in how many characters one is expected to write after three years. That would be even more difficult to gauge or generalise about, especially considering even native speakers have trouble with writing.

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Tianci : At my university: between 3600 and 4200 hanzi

(about 1200-1500 hanzi per year)

tooironic: I would be more interested in how many characters one is expected to write after three years. That would be even more difficult to gauge or generalise about, especially considering even native speakers have trouble with writing.

For these 3600/4200 hanzi, we must know reading, writing, pronouncing all of them

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My "university":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_national_des_langues_et_civilisations_orientales

Are most students able to meet that requirement?

Yes. In fact, we must meet that requirement: students who can't meet that, choose to leave the university...:-?

But,there are 2 degrees : "normal cursus"(4 years for a licence) and "intensive cursus"(3 years for a licence). I'm in the "intensive cursus".

Do you have a reading list for classes at your school that you can share?

Maybe...If anyone wants to have list, I will try to find my list...:wink:

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Nice!! Do you have a word-count in addition to the hanzi count?

I think HSK Intermediate expects around 4,000 hanzi and 10,000 words... maybe a reasonable goal for a focused language training program, but perhaps optimistic for regular university students who might not be Chinese majors after all.

I'd say most students I've met with 2-years (4-semesters) of Chinese abroad still know less than 1000 hanzi characters, and maybe could pick up another 1000 with an additional year if they're motivated.

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I think HSK Intermediate expects around 4,000 hanzi and 10,000 words...

The HSK Advanced requires less than 3000 individual characters and less than 9000 words.

At least based on the vocabulary lists floating around the net.

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