edelweis Posted April 13, 2010 at 06:40 PM Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 at 06:40 PM Hi, I'm still learning the new HSK3 vocabulary and looking up sample sentences... So I found several simple samples sentences for 敢 on dict.cn and jukuu.com but the last one below seems strange... Is this some kind of rhetoric question? 我们必须敢想,敢说,敢干。We must dare to think, speak up and act. 你怎敢说出这样的话? How dare you say such a thing? 你敢再回来! Don't you dare come back again! Should the translation of the last one be something like "how do you dare", "you dare ...!" (meaning, you have done it and shouldn't have) ? Or is the proposed translation correct ("don't you dare...")? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiguoren Posted April 13, 2010 at 10:16 PM Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 at 10:16 PM I think you are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natra Posted April 14, 2010 at 12:07 AM Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 at 12:07 AM Yes, it is rhetorical. 你敢再回来! I dare you to come back here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shi Tong Posted April 14, 2010 at 12:08 PM Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 at 12:08 PM yeppos.. I agree. This is like 你敢再回来; "you dare come back?!"/ "I dare you to come back!!" I would say you usually hear other stuff though: 你怎么敢再回来.. How can you dare to come back. 你敢再回来吗.. Dare you come back again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangping Posted April 14, 2010 at 02:11 PM Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 at 02:11 PM I don't know the definite answer to your question, but it doesn't look like the other person has returned yet. If the other guy had, say, just walked in through the door, you'd expect a 又 (past/present "again") rather than 再 (future "again"). With this in mind it literally means "You dare to come back again (in the future)!". Like you say, it looks rhetorical, and in exasperation it's not unusual to miss out negatives and such. I'd say the English translation "Don't you dare come back again!" looks about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edelweis Posted April 14, 2010 at 04:20 PM Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 at 04:20 PM ok thanks all. It looks like this sentence is a little tricky so I think I will keep it out of my SRS for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shi Tong Posted April 14, 2010 at 09:00 PM Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 at 09:00 PM I agree edelweis.. mostly because it's a bit ambiguous, could be taken a few different ways in a few different circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semantic nuance Posted May 1, 2010 at 01:21 PM Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 at 01:21 PM 你敢再回来!Don't you dare come back again! Like its English translation, the Chinese sentence omits the threatening latter part, for example, 你敢再回來! (你就試試看!) If you ever dare come back again, I'll wring your neck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shi Tong Posted May 4, 2010 at 08:53 AM Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 at 08:53 AM 我就掐死你...:lol: "I'll wring your neck", literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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