Quest Posted October 6, 2004 at 02:06 AM Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 at 02:06 AM Okay, if you are a Cantonese from Hong Kong, please listen to this. Does this sound normal to you? because it irks my ears to listen to this kind of Cantonese, and I think the 懒音 "problem" is getting "worse" each generation. 疮 -> ch'on 康荘 -> 看john 汤 -> t'on 讲 -> 赶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaomawang Posted October 6, 2004 at 05:26 AM Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 at 05:26 AM These are not really 懒音, some people just can't pronounce 'ong' properly. I mean they have problem to say it out. They don't even know those words need to rise the back of tongue at the end. For 懒音, this like people say 'ngo' as 'o', 'ngau' as 'au'. When you point it out, they can easily adjust. Not because they have problem to pronounce it. And in general, it's easier to rise the back of tongue at the beginning rather than at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted October 6, 2004 at 11:55 AM Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 at 11:55 AM it is 懒音. From what I have observed, I think people above age 25 only skip the initial "ng", but many people under age 25 skip the final "ng" as well. (I wonder how they pronounce Hong Kong in English, Hon Kon?) So, how does it sound to you? Would you be uncomfortable hearing people talk like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted October 6, 2004 at 12:44 PM Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 at 12:44 PM 這個檔案的來源篩選器無法載入。 I got this message when I tried to listen to it. What troubles me a lot is when I hear the weather girl say "麥" for "密" as in "密雲" (there are other examples of confusing the -k and the -t endings but I can't quote them off hand). And if I skip all "ng", would I sound younger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted October 6, 2004 at 12:56 PM Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 at 12:56 PM 這個檔案的來源篩選器無法載入。 Try right click and save as... the file is hosted here on this server, u should be able to download it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted October 6, 2004 at 01:00 PM Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 at 01:00 PM And if I skip all "ng", would I sound younger? If you can do that consistently!! I can try that for a few sentences, but to speak like that consistently is out of my abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted October 6, 2004 at 01:08 PM Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 at 01:08 PM Thanks. I've listened to it several times and found it not unacceptable. "ng" is missing from "康" and "講', but I still hear the "ng" in the other words. (No offence, but you can't expect everyone to talk '咬牙切齒" all the time, or else everyone would sound like 羅文 singing. ) And you like 青出於藍 too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted October 6, 2004 at 08:25 PM Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 at 08:25 PM Speaking right doesn't have to mean 咬牙切齒. And you like 青出於藍 too? Not really. That's why I downloaded episode 15 last week and only watched it yesterday. (and found that girl's accent hard on my ears) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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