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When reading 文言文Classical Chinese, scholars during the 清Qing dynasty separated two pronunciations for two different periods. 古音Old sounds(Old Chinese), and 今音New sounds(Middle Chinese). This was because they found that reading poems and songs from 先秦汉pre-Qin, Han dynasties period didn't rime very well and began studying these Old sound rimes. What I refer to is Old Chinese. 帕米尔高原Pamir mountains, is located on the borders of Tajikistan, China, Pakistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Afghanistan. According to human anthropology, three branches formed between Iran and the Pamir mountains on modern human's migration eastward. This was the time when most human tribes were hunter-gatherers, a group migrated south, and became the South branch(炎帝支), they followed the coast entered China and went northwards to Hebei, Liaoning, into the Korean peninsula and Japan. The Central branch(黄帝支) went from Xinjiang and spread out over the Tibet and the Yellow river valley. The Northern branch were nomadic in Central Asia, some going west to Turkey, some going east, possibly all the way to North America. 炎帝支 was mostly hunter-gatherer(fishing), and 黄帝支 was mostly agricultural. The two groups eventually merged and became the 华夏支, this includes the Tai and Burmese peoples. The difference is the Burmese people were probably earlier inhabitants who came from southeast of the Tibetan plateau which makes them belong to the 黄帝支, while Tai were late comers who belonged to the 炎帝支. Both sharing a close relationship with 华夏支.

等 first appeared in the rime book «韵学残卷» during the Tang dynasty. The poet or writer would use word of different 等 in the middle of sentences, it could also be a fictional proper name that the writer has to think of. The four 等s are classified: 1st and 3rd being 重等, and 2nd and 4th being 轻等. 匣等: When a sentence or a poem has vowels of the 1st 2nd and 4th, it means the sentence is well; 呼等: When 重 and 轻 are matched together; 押等: When 1st and 2nd(haven't 介音 English is medial?) or 3rd and 4th(have 介音 English is medial?)

I'm sorry I couldn't explain alot of this in English...

-Shìbó :mrgreen:

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When reading 文言文Classical Chinese, scholars during the 清Qing dynasty separated two pronunciations for two different periods. 古音Old sounds(Old Chinese), and 今音New sounds(Middle Chinese). This was because they found that reading poems and songs from 先秦汉pre-Qin, Han dynasties period didn't rime very well and began studying these Old sound rimes. What I refer to is Old Chinese.

In Qing age it is already new Chinese (Mandarin). But what rhymes in Middle Chinese (almost always) rhymes in new Chinese, while change from Old Chinese to Middle Chinese includes lots of change of endings.

e.g. -m, -ng 東風林 is said to be rhyming, and the change make some "defects" like om is not found in Early Middle Chinese. (e.g. some rhymes, like -om, is not found)

帕米尔高原Pamir mountains, is located on the borders of Tajikistan, China, Pakistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Afghanistan. According to human anthropology, three branches formed between Iran and the Pamir mountains on modern human's migration eastward. This was the time when most human tribes were hunter-gatherers, a group migrated south, and became the South branch(炎帝支), they followed the coast entered China and went northwards to Hebei, Liaoning, into the Korean peninsula and Japan. The Central branch(黄帝支) went from Xinjiang and spread out over the Tibet and the Yellow river valley.

Actually it was quite far before the forming of the proto-modern linguistic groups.

Chinese legend of 3 groups: 燧人氏 "Fireman", 伏羲氏 "Grand Tamer", 神農氏 "Grand Agriculturer"

The Northern branch were nomadic in Central Asia, some going west to Turkey, some going east, possibly all the way to North America. 炎帝支 was mostly hunter-gatherer(fishing), and 黄帝支 was mostly agricultural. The two groups eventually merged and became the 华夏支, this includes the Tai and Burmese peoples. The difference is the Burmese people were probably earlier inhabitants who came from southeast of the Tibetan plateau which makes them belong to the 黄帝支, while Tai were late comers who belonged to the 炎帝支. Both sharing a close relationship with 华夏支.

炎帝 is said to be ancestor of 羌, which is predecessor of Tibetan and Burmese.

Also, there was a group of people who spread near river, the reason is that they are agricultural tribe. They have much to do with "The Grand Agriculturer" 神農氏, but they are called the "Austroasiatics".

等 first appeared in the rime book «韵学残卷» during the Tang dynasty. The poet or writer would use word of different 等 in the middle of sentences, it could also be a fictional proper name that the writer has to think of. The four 等s are classified: 1st and 3rd being 重等, and 2nd and 4th being 轻等. 匣等: When a sentence or a poem has vowels of the 1st 2nd and 4th, it means the sentence is well; 呼等: When 重 and 轻 are matched together; 押等: When 1st and 2nd(haven't 介音 English is medial?) or 3rd and 4th(have 介音 English is medial?)

Was 等 is that the distinction related to 4 kinds of predecessors of '-ia-'/'-ua-'?

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