navaburo Posted February 28, 2012 at 02:10 AM Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 at 02:10 AM Does anyone have a name (historical or otherwise) for the primitive in the upper-left of this character: 擊? I'm starting to see it around and it would be helpful to have a name for it. (It seems that the primitive is derived from 車 over 口, but I'm not sure what to call that either!) Thanks, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaelyus Posted February 28, 2012 at 02:49 AM Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 at 02:49 AM 軎 wèi http://www.zdic.net/zd/zi/ZdicE8ZdicBBZdic8E.htm 古代车上的零件，青铜制，形如圆筒，套在车轴的两端。軎上有孔，用以纳辖。亦作“轊”。 i.e. brass axle-tip for carts; also written 轊. http://www.chineseetymology.org/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&characterInput=%E8%BB%8E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEye Posted February 28, 2012 at 02:57 AM Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 at 02:57 AM I'm not quite sure what you mean by "primitive", but that part of the character (originally 軎) meant 'axle', according to 說文解字. Edit: looks like I was beaten to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted February 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM I also am curious as to what the OP meant by "primitive" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cababunga Posted February 28, 2012 at 05:44 PM Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 at 05:44 PM I also am curious as to what the OP meant by "primitive" . I'm not OP, but "primitive element" is the term used at least in Heisig/Richardson books to refer to character components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navaburo Posted February 28, 2012 at 06:16 PM Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 at 06:16 PM Yes, that is what I meant. I am working through Heisig's RTK. I've noticed that since I've been using his method I am noticing many of these "primitives" in my reading, for which I lack a proper name. It would be nice to have a name for every primitive. A list of these names would greatly simplify talking about and remembering characters. (of course, the radical list is a great starting point, but it is by no means exhaustive for primitives) Thanks for the help. [Ok, so i will call 軎 and its other form by the name "axel".] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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