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navaburo

Primitive Question

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navaburo

Does anyone have a name (historical or otherwise) for the primitive in the upper-left of this character: 擊? I'm starting to see it around and it would be helpful to have a name for it.

(It seems that the primitive is derived from 車 over 口, but I'm not sure what to call that either!)

Thanks,

Chris

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Michaelyus

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http://www.zdic.net/zd/zi/ZdicE8ZdicBBZdic8E.htm

古代车上的零件,青铜制,形如圆筒,套在车轴的两端。軎上有孔,用以纳辖。亦作“轊”。

i.e. brass axle-tip for carts; also written 轊.

http://www.chineseetymology.org/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&characterInput=%E8%BB%8E

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OneEye

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "primitive", but that part of the character (originally 軎) meant 'axle', according to 說文解字.

Edit: looks like I was beaten to it

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Shelley

I also am curious as to what the OP meant by "primitive" .

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cababunga
I also am curious as to what the OP meant by "primitive" .

I'm not OP, but "primitive element" is the term used at least in Heisig/Richardson books to refer to character components.

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navaburo

Yes, that is what I meant.

I am working through Heisig's RTK. I've noticed that since I've been using his method I am noticing many of these "primitives" in my reading, for which I lack a proper name.

It would be nice to have a name for every primitive. A list of these names would greatly simplify talking about and remembering characters. (of course, the radical list is a great starting point, but it is by no means exhaustive for primitives)

Thanks for the help.

[Ok, so i will call 軎 and its other form by the name "axel".]

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