EOS Posted June 10, 2014 at 01:42 PM Report Posted June 10, 2014 at 01:42 PM 表示我还是没有落伍嘛。某人的作品…但我真辣么汉子吗?为什么是辣句话。 Thank you Quote
New Members chenbenson Posted June 10, 2014 at 02:41 PM New Members Report Posted June 10, 2014 at 02:41 PM i think this is not a right chinese sentence, where do u find this sentence? Quote
Nathan Mao Posted June 10, 2014 at 03:22 PM Report Posted June 10, 2014 at 03:22 PM 辣 is either the wrong character, or some slang I have never encountered at all. Trying to work around that character, a very rough translation would be: "Express I still haven't fallen behind. Someone's work...But I really _______ Chinese characters? Why is it ______ sentence?" It seems like very informal speech, perhaps a fragment or dialogue close to stream of consciousness. Who should express that I still haven't fallen behind? Me? Or someone else responsible for my progress? Need some more context to make translation more precise. Quote
OneEye Posted June 10, 2014 at 03:41 PM Report Posted June 10, 2014 at 03:41 PM 辣 is standing in for 那. It's a pretty common shift in some regional accents, and typing it out like that is probably done intentionally for humor. I have a friend who types 如果...了話(的話). Not 汉字, but 汉子. Depending on context, perhaps: "Tell them* I haven't fallen behind. Someone's work...but am I really that manly†? Why that sentence? (or maybe "why did you/they/he/she say that?")" * Or "I say," or the like. There's no subject or object so it isn't clear. It would likely be clear in context. † I'm guessing here, because I'm not very familiar with the use of 汉子. Without context, that's the best I've got. 2 Quote
Nathan Mao Posted June 10, 2014 at 04:05 PM Report Posted June 10, 2014 at 04:05 PM 辣 for 那? Seriously? That represents a significant obscuring of coherence. Which regions make that shift? 1 Quote
OneEye Posted June 10, 2014 at 04:37 PM Report Posted June 10, 2014 at 04:37 PM Sorry, I wasn't clear. It's a shift in pronunciation from n- to l- and vice versa. Any character pronounced là would have worked. I'm not sure which particular regions make that shift, but I do know it's common in heavily Minnan-influenced accents in Taiwan, and presumably China. n- and l- (and d-, like my friend above) all have the same point of articulation and none are aspirated, so they're actually really close phonetically. Such a shift isn't really all that surprising. 1 Quote
Lu Posted June 10, 2014 at 08:26 PM Report Posted June 10, 2014 at 08:26 PM Nanjing is famous for changing n- to l- and vice versa. Henan does it too (which is fun when you go there as a 荷兰人), as does Hunan (Fulan). Perhaps even Sichuan? I've been misheard there, tourguide thought I said I lived in 河南. There's probably more regions that make this shift, it's not uncommon. I don't think I've heard d- for l- before, which regions do that? Quote
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