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Absolutely! I'll gladly start the ball rolling tomorrow and hope lots of others will join in. Time for all you 中国通 (old China hands) out there to share tricks and tips to help the newcomers live better in this strange foreign land.

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LinZhenPu

I'm game to try out some of your minimalist dormitory room style recipes and see how I go about sourcing ingredients in Dongbei.

Suggestion: Come up with some ketogenic diet dorm room recipes, for those who want to shed some body fat.

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Angelina

have you tried to enable 微信运动?

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LinZhenPu
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have you tried to enable 微信运动?

No, what's that? Wechat exercise?

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>>" I'm game to try out some of your minimalist dormitory room style recipes and see how I go about sourcing ingredients in Dongbei."

 

LinZhenPu -- Please see this thread: https://www.chinese-forums.com/forums/topic/53539-survivor-china-minimalist-dormitory-cooking/

 

Started off with a discussion of equipment; will begin a discussion of ingredients today.

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Angelina
On 8.2.2017 at 10:25 PM, LinZhenPu said:

No, what's that? Wechat exercise?

 

Yes, if you are on WeChat, write 微信运动 and enable it, then you will exercise together with your WeChat contacts. 

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LinZhenPu
On 10/02/2017 at 2:12 AM, Angelina said:

Yes, if you are on WeChat, write 微信运动 and enable it, then you will exercise together with your WeChat contacts. 

I don't buy it.

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Stefen

I think in general that Chinese food dosen't contain that much protein, and often contains a lot of empty calories, however I'm not that sensitive about food, what I care about is how the food is made, how much antibiotic the meet contains and where the vegetables been farmed I usually try buy organic stuff, but that's often pretty expensive... 

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@Stefen  -- I see you're new. Welcome to the forum!

 

Where do you live in China? Do you find it easy to find antibiotic-free meat and organically-farmed vegetables? How do you go about it? Where do you look for such items? How do you ask about those things in Chinese? Perhaps you could share some vocabulary tips for the rest of us.

 

I only know 天然的 or 全天然的 and have not found those terms very helpful in the market. Vendors tend to always reply "yes" when asked if their fresh produce is organic or natural. Sometimes they even laugh. It's as though I was asking something ridiculous: "Are your tomatoes grown in outer space?"

 

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>>" I think in general that Chinese food dosen't contain that much protein, and often contains a lot of empty calories,"

 

By "empty calories" do you mean things like rice and noodles? Do you think of them as complex carbohydrates? Or are you talking about snack foods, which are notoriously unhealthy everywhere?

 

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing with you; only trying to benefit from your experience.

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Stefen

 

Thank you! and no worries I'm not sensitive, please argue with me. ;) 
 

I do all my shopping online, my Chinese is not that great, I don't have any problems getting around but for asking about the origin of a product my Chinese is insufficient. By shopping online I can read about the products and where they are from and so on. 

I haven't gone through the rules for the forum so I'm not sure if I can post a link to where I order my food, so I'll only do if it's okay. My sister is a veterinarian in my home country and she always tell me that I have to be careful about meet, especially with pork and chicken, so that's why I try to buy antibiotic-free meat.     

 

"By "empty calories" do you mean things like rice and noodles? Do you think of them as complex carbohydrates? Or are you talking about snack foods, which are notoriously unhealthy everywhere?"

 

Yes exactly, rice, noodles, potato, a lot of oil, the type of food that makes you fell satisfied, but are not really healthy, I cannot generalize too much since the food culture is really different in different parts of China. Where I come from, (North Europe) the protein amount and a low amount of calories is often very important, the fitness trend is very strong back home, but the same thing are happening in China right now. salad restaurants, healthy restaurants and gyms, are popping up everywhere. 

 

Not sure if this helped you, just let me know if you have any more questions. :)

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Thanks, Stefen.

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ChTTay

"Chinese food doesn't contain much protein" 

 

This is so broad as to be meaningless. Are you talking about in a restaurant? Home cooked? Noodle dishes? Hot pot? Which part of China? How affluent are those cooking or buying it? 

 

If you're in a restaurant, it depends entirely on what you're ordering. If you go for dishes and order different meat and tofu then you're getting a lot of protein. 

 

We cook Chinese cook at home all the time and it's very well balanced between vegetables, meat and carbs. 

 

Generally how much meat a person consumes and how often is a good indicator of wealth. I have Chinese friends who are from rural villages originally and they might just eat meat once every couple of weeks. City friends will eat it everyday. 

 

Tofu is also a good source of protein. Also don't forget the growing popularity of dairy as well. Apart from the obvious ones, all foods contain some protein in them. You can get it from a wide range of sources.

 

I would say that just eating noodle dishes in China tends to lead to an imbalanced meal. They tend to be very noodle heavy and light on the vegetables. If they have any meat at all it's a few pieces. 

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Stefen

ChTTay. 

 

Did I even write "Chinese food doesn't contain much protein" ?

I wrote that "in general Chinese food doesn't contain much protein" and I also wrote "I cannot generalize too much since the food culture is really different in different parts of China." Of course the intake of protein depends on your income, I have lived in Tier 3 cities and in tier 1 and of course it's a huge difference, and in Tier 1 cites a lot of dishes are "westernized" I am talking in general and cannot comment on what every restaurant is serving. And yes you are right, Tofu contains protein, however if can generalize my perception is that Chinese food contains less protein compared to what I am used to, with that said I love Chinese food, I just try stay away from antibiotics and pesticides.   

 

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TheWind

Chinese food is progressivley becoming more westernized, you can see it with all the KFC's, the increase in Burger king's, Mc Donalds, Pizza Huts, and now Tacobell is opening like 1000 locations over the next few years. It's also noticeable in their children, who are noticeably more chubby/fat.

Also it's worth mentioning China is a carbohydrate heavy country. If you don't eat noodles or rice, well then you're kinda screwed on choices. All that's left is the tasty yet far too oily vegetables.

Anyways -- I'd say it's about the same health wise as american food. A lot of stuff here is processed too. But things like fish, meat, chicken, vegetables and fruit are generally fresher compared to the U.S.

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@TheWind makes some good points. Seems to me that it's more and more useful here to be able to cook at least some of one's own food at home. Clearly it's not the total solution to all the issues, such as those raised by @ChTTay and @Stefen above, but it can help some. In my opinion it's a worthwhile investment of effort and time.

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