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You wanted me to come back this forum and tell my experience, should I?

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liuzhou

 

indeed I think we will take care of foreigners much better than our own citizens.

 

In my experience, China often does the same. 

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Angelina

Relax. If you don't like China, you can leave. Nobody is forcing you to stay in China, nobody will judge you for dropping out. 

 

I'm sorry that China did not turn out to be the utopia you thought it will be. It's ok, you are adult now, you have realized that life is not prefect. Maybe you can transfer to a language program this year and start your degree program next year. If you don't want this, leave!

 

Basically, these are your options:

 

1. Leave China right now;

2. Transfer to a language program;

3. Don't transfer and try to survive on your fellowship until you find something better. You will be receiving your monthly allowance until July and you have a dorm room. If you decide to go somewhere else outside of Venezuela, you have to know that the place will not be perfect. 

 

One poster said that they visited HIT before making the final decision to move to Harbin. I don't think everyone is able to do this. What if OP did not have the money you had and could not afford to visit the place beforehand? What if OP does not have the money to buy a plane ticket to leave China? What if she or he is stuck in China because of this? Not all currencies are strong, what if OP's family can't help either because of unfavourable exchange rates. 

 

This can serve as a warning. China is not utopia. 

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Lu

Renzhe has good advice. Well, two good pieces of advice. If you don't take the first piece of advice, make sure to at least take the second one and go see the ice festival. It's amazing.

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Demonic_Duck
beacause probably I'm the first one with balls enough to say bad experiences

Have you even taken the time to read the rest of the forums outside of your own threads?

 

I'm not going to any ice festival, I'm a student not a f tourist. I came here for specific academical intentions, is possible maybe you can understand this?

You might find that if you don't willfully shy away from things which might be interesting or fun, you'll enjoy yourself more. Just a thought.

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Yorin

 

I'm not going to any ice festival, I'm a student not a f tourist. I came here for specific academical intentions, is possible maybe you can understand this?

 

To study is to learn for your job - to experience and appreciate what other cultures and places have to offer is to learn for your life.

Right now, I'd say it could be very helpful for you to learn something for your life.

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roddy

While I'm not inclined to close the topic, can I point out that pretty much everything worth saying has been said, and that there are loads of other interesting topics to read and post in - and to start. 

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Shelley

Enjoying the great spectacle that is the ice festival and

specific academical intentions

 

are not mutually exclusive.

 

There is more to life than just books.

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Silent

 

I'm not going to any ice festival, I'm a student not a f tourist. I came here for specific academical intentions, is possible maybe you people can understand this?

You may have come to study, you can't study all the time. At least it's very inefficient. Part of the processing in your brain is done in a diffuse mode so it's essential to have a break once in a while for these diffuse processes to take place. So a visit to the ice festival might even be beneficial.

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hedwards

I agree with Shelley and Silent, don't put so much of your time and effort into academics. Things are apparently hard right now in school, so placing all your eggs in that basket is even more of a problem than it might normally be. I remember the rough bits when I was in China were mostly times when my life had gotten out of balance in favor of work and work itself wasn't going as well as I wanted.

 

This is China, even the government has had to make allowances for the fact that China will only be changed if China wants to be changed and China usually doesn't want to be changed. So, you can drive yourself nuts trying to force things to be the way that you like or you can realize that this is culture shock and it's not going to get any better until you just accept that YOU have to adapt here, not everybody else. YOU'RE the one that's suffering here and YOU'RE the one that's going to suffer or benefit from changes not anybody else.

 

Some griping and commiseration is to be expected, but at the end of the day, sometimes you have to choose between being right and getting what you want. It seems to me that you're rather fixated on being right and are willing to sacrifice basically everything you claim to want in order to be right.

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Lu

Good to see that you appreciate some things of China, I hope you can gradually find more of them.

And don't go to the ice festival if you don't want to, by all means. But as others already said, even the most diligent student needs to take a break sometimes. Life is too short to worry about whether you're acting like a tourist.

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Angelina

I know nothing is perfect, but there is something known as respect, I was disrespected the day I came here. Why should I leave, I worked hard and earned to be here, I invested a lot of my personal finance to be here. My complaints are not about China, since I have not been but in this city, I can't judge the other regions and cities. 

 

Great. Now make it work. 

 

I'm not going to any ice festival, I'm a student not a f tourist. I came here for specific academical intentions, is possible maybe you people can understand this?

 

So what? I came here for specific academic reasons myself. Doesn't mean that I should not be making any friends. Even if you end up working in academia, how are you going to network with other academics? People need to have a social life. Maybe a researcher has a very busy lifestyle and can't be partying every night, but this researcher should be an accomplished human being leading a meaningful life. 

 

If you don't like the ice festival, you don't have to go there. Do something else for fun. Talk to people! You are an academic, talk to other academics! What is your area of research? I can get you in touch with other grad students doing engineering in China. 

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Johnny20270

I do empathise with the sujeto a little, I haven't read all the posts but from what I read he was lead to believe that the course was going to be taught in English. If that was the case and its taught in Chinese, that is totally inexcusable. No UK university could get away with that without serious reprimands.

 

Sujeto, I wonder if you are intentionally seeing things from a negative light. I read that you mentioned people making condescending remarks because you can't speak Chinese. Actually, almost all posters here have said the opposite, i.e. uncomfortable over praise for even the slightest knowledge of Chinese. Perhaps you just want to see the negative? I was the same at the start. I was getting p#ssed at just about everything. I think its good to ride over the bumps (if you can). 

 

Relating to your original comment, I do think this forum is not the most balanced in terms of view of china. I have read a few posts which seemed to undeservedly over praise china, almost bordering on the cringy. This is by no means a criticism, just an observation. Its to be expected though, Posters have taken a great interest in the country and / or language hence its natural to see comments leaning towards praise than criticism. My brother lived here for 2 years and absolutely hated it. He is not the only one, many others I met hated china and take no interest in the country. Thus, they wouldn't take the time to post on a forum like this, to balance out comments. 

 

I just got back from 3 weeks away and the reality of Beijing struck me again like getting a cold bucket of water thrown over me. I do look for the positives but weighting everything up, to put very crudely and bluntly,.... many other countries are simply better. For me that's the cold hard truth. (I'll still stay though :D )

 

I think this particular thread is interesting as it should peoples views on china, even if somewhat extreme. 

 

Edit: I believe that sujeto should not be blocked and continue posting as it does add breath to the forum. (Perhaps clean up the language and insults. )

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ChTTay

On these forums, personally, I have found being negative about China is fine overall. However, whatever comments you make need to come across as reasonable and have a fairly solid basis. If you make throw away, immature or thoughtless comments, if you comments hint at stereotyping or racism, then they will be shot down. Equally, if you make negative comments based on an experience you just had, some people are bound to say 'yeah, i've had that!' while others will try and make see a different side of things. I see this as a good thing. This is surely the case for almost all topics that people choose to discuss openly, in public. I am speaking generally here, not about Sujeto's threads in particular.

 

I would also say that one reason I stuck around on this forum is that, on the whole, everyone is really nice to each other. :P:D

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Demonic_Duck

@Johnny20270: Mind pointing out any examples of posts that you've seen that paint China in an unduly good light? I'm not saying they don't exist, but I don't remember seeing a great deal. As for blatant 五毛-style posting, I don't recall ever seeing it on here (but maybe that's just because roddy and imron are doing their jobs right...)

 

Also, I don't think an overall positive vibe towards its specialist subject is evidence of bias on a forum. For example, I'm sure if you're into cross-stitching, I'm sure the Cross Stitch Guild forum is a highly useful source of information, despite the fact you'll find lots of posters talking about how great cross stitch is, and not many saying "cross stitch is for losers", "cross stitch is boring" etc.

 

Meanwhile, the Mothers Against Cross Stitch forum would be a much less viable source of information.

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Johnny20270

@Demonic_Duck, 

 

its just a passing comment  about the the general feeling I myself got with this forum initially. I don't want to go through previous posts but I do recall making a similar comment myself before, relating to the somewhat naive view of china, in comparison to other countries at times from posters. I do think its fairly balanced but we must point out reality when warranted.

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Shelley

I always felt his original post entitled

I NEED advices, travelling for firstime in my life out of my country to the RED CHINA? Please Help!

 

Had me worried from the start. The words "RED CHINA" rang alarm bells for me as to what he was expecting. I was going to mention this term he used but decided not to get involved.

 

I really wish he could find something good about China, he has traveled a long way, taken a leap in the unknown, probably spent a lot of money, and has been sadly disappointed..

 

 

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