Friday Posted November 25, 2015 at 02:34 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 at 02:34 PM When people in my home country learn that I lived in China for a time, some are suspicious that I actually learned Chinese. But since they don't know Chinese themselves, it is difficult to prove.Some classmates checked their dictionaries and tried reading the pinyin to me, baffled that I couldn't understand simple phrases like "nye-hay-o may". Regarding accent, I think they all expect the sing-songy Cantonese that appears so often in the movies.I don't have an interest in going around telling people, "I speak Chinese", but at the same time, it is not good to have people think one is dishonest. What ways have you used to prove that you speak Chinese to someone who has had little exposure to the language? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
889 Posted November 25, 2015 at 02:44 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 at 02:44 PM Head to a restaurant and order in Chinese. Make it a bet and you'll get a free meal. (Best to head to a Chinese restaurant, of course.) Otherwise, just take out a pen and write your name. For this purpose, do it "printed" not "cursive" style so you'll produce something folks will immediately recognise as Chinese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flickserve Posted November 25, 2015 at 02:45 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 at 02:45 PM Why does it matter? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotJack Posted November 25, 2015 at 03:05 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 at 03:05 PM Yeah I'm on the side of why does it matter? Who cares if they don't believe you. Obviously you don't feel that way so with that in mind, surely you can reel off a paragraph introducing yourself etc perhaps throw in a few derogatory comments about these obnoxious cynical friends. If they listen to you speaking for a minute or so, and claim they don't believe you (assuming you are able to speak Chinese) then they are just trying to wind you up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted November 25, 2015 at 04:04 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 at 04:04 PM I am in the "why does it matter" camp. I don't think you can prove it to someone who doesn't have any chinese at all. What are they going to measure it against? Interestingly it made me wonder to what use one might put a "proof I know chinese" phrase/writing etc. it could be used to dishonestly show a higher skill level than is actually the case because there is nothing to gauge it with, but then again someone who knows nothing would be impressed by the simplest thing. I am not in anyway saying this is what the OP wants to do. You only really have to "prove" yourself to someone who can appreciate what skills you have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiao Kui Posted November 25, 2015 at 11:56 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 at 11:56 PM haha, if you have to ask this question maybe you don't really "know Chinese" Whenever an American asks me to say something in Chinese I just rattle off "what would you like me to say in Chinese" in Chinese and perhaps a few other phrases just to make it interesting for myself and they are completely convinced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flickserve Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:49 AM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:49 AM haha, if you have to ask this question maybe you don't really "know Chinese. Given the failure to actually state the names of dialects in another thread, I also suspect the OP doesn't know any Chinese. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Two Times Posted November 26, 2015 at 04:27 AM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 04:27 AM I get annoyed when people back in my home country implore me to "Speak Chinese! Go on! C'mon! C'mon! Just do it! Say something! Oh, that's so cool!" Great, I get to be a dancing monkey in my home country too! I am another one in the "does it really matter?" camp. Whenever I see the "Speak Chinese! Go on!" crew coming, I try to avoid them and dismiss their silly requests. I didn't learn Chinese to impress them or to make it a party trick. I learned it for me and to use it for professional and personal reasons while in China and that's all that matters. Warm regards, Chris Two Time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friday Posted November 26, 2015 at 04:39 AM Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 04:39 AM I didn't learn Chinese to impress them or to make it a party trick.I completely agree. I don't have this intention. If I had instead spent 10 years learning Spanish, I'm sure nobody would doubt me. But learning Chinese is a bit unusual. I might as well tell people I just came back from the moon. They look at me with disbelief and it harms relationships as people think I am just telling tall stories. I want people to know I am an honest person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Two Times Posted November 26, 2015 at 04:48 AM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 04:48 AM Ah, I see your point. I just let it be known that I have spent seven years in China over a period of sixteen years and then it becomes apparent that I am not telling tall tales (oh! alliteration!). Good luck with it all. Warm regards, Chris Two Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted November 26, 2015 at 05:05 AM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 05:05 AM @Friday -- Thought you were in China trying to escape involuntary English practice. What's going on? http://www.chinese-forums.com/index.php?/topic/50299-how-to-politely-escape-from-%E2%80%9Cenglish-practice%E2%80%9D/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapler Posted November 26, 2015 at 06:53 AM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 06:53 AM I don't think anyone has ever tried to speak English with me in China, and no one here has ever asked me to speak Chinese (or even care if I can speak it)... I don't think I smell bad or look particularly scary. I wonder what repellent vibe I'm sending out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingfunny Posted November 26, 2015 at 07:37 AM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 07:37 AM Why would you not believe someone who says they can speak Chinese? Even if they're lying, what is there to benefit you by doubting them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingfunny Posted November 26, 2015 at 07:41 AM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 07:41 AM It's funny actually, on the few occasions where someone has said to me "speak to that guy in Chinese" or to someone else "hey my buddy speaks Chinese", they usually regret it after about 10 minutes of exclusive Chinese language conversation between me and my new friend. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted November 26, 2015 at 09:10 AM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 09:10 AM When back in the US I sometimes am called on to show off my Chinese. The person I address invariably turns out to only speak Hakka or Cantonese. Once went with a friend to the largest Chinese grocery store in Austin. Discovered, when I tried to talk with the staff, that the place was owned and run by Vietnamese. My Putonghua was not valid currency. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vellocet Posted November 26, 2015 at 09:56 AM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 09:56 AM I completely agree. I don't have this intention. If I had instead spent 10 years learning Spanish, I'm sure nobody would doubt me. But learning Chinese is a bit unusual. I might as well tell people I just came back from the moon. They look at me with disbelief and it harms relationships as people think I am just telling tall stories. I want people to know I am an honest person. To be honest with an honest person, how does this even come up? Unless you're the one to bring it up, and why are you bringing up the fact that you speak Chinese with people? It's of little use in whatever home country you're in. Why's it relevant? And why do you feel the need to prove yourself, if you are an honest man? Just tell people to trust you, and they'll have to take your word for it. Why not? It's true, after all. It's just very unlikely to ever come up. If you want to show off how awesome you are, while simultaneously convincing everyone that you can speak Chinese, do what I did: invite your family and friends to a Chinese restaurant where you order the dishes. The staff are entertained by the funny laowai, your friends get to eat real Chinese food instead of that junk they always get, there are no forks and knives at the table, only chopsticks, and you get to show off in public, at last. Personally, I kind of enjoy getting a rise out of people back home when I say I can speak Chinese. Since they've no way of disproving me, they either have to call bullshit or accept it. I like completely failing to prove it. Since I can, I don't have to prove it to anyone, it's like trying to bluff me out of a pot where I'm holding a full house. It's pretty trollish, in some ways I am a small man. Irritatingly, the last time I went to a fancy restaurant back home, our waitress was from Taiwan and dear old Dad blurted out that I can speak Chinese. So, I had to endure this teeth-grindingly banal conversation with her. You know, the one that you've had hundreds of times in China, only in English. It was awful, and embarrassing, and I just wanted it to end. To make it worse, at the end of the meal she came up and asked me if I wanted "he zi". I couldn't understand her..."he zi, he zi". She finally gestures and I understand she's saying "box" for the leftover food. Of course, in context I was expecting her to say 打包. On the way home, Dad needles me about not being able to understand her. Aaaauuuugggghhhh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geraldc Posted November 26, 2015 at 10:08 AM Popular Post Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 10:08 AM If anyone who doesn't know Chinese asks you to prove that you understand Chinese. Ask to borrow their smartphone. Go to settings, and switch system language and input keyboard to Chinese. Hand phone back to them Walk away. If they say something, tell them they need someone who can read Chinese to help switch their phone back. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roddy Posted November 26, 2015 at 11:11 AM Popular Post Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 11:11 AM That's brilliant. I'm going to do it to everyone, regardless of whether or not they've asked me to prove I speak Chinese. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny同志 Posted November 26, 2015 at 01:25 PM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 01:25 PM That's brilliant. I'm going to do it to everyone, regardless of whether or not they've asked me to prove I speak Chinese. You will risk being mistaken for a 新疆人. Edit: I am sorry I didn't read geraldc's post. I thought you were going to speak Chinese to anyone you met... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post skylee Posted November 26, 2015 at 01:50 PM Popular Post Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 01:50 PM That actually happened to me once. I was in Melbourne and a guy ran to me and asked me if I spoke Chinese. He then handed me a phone whose settings had been set to Chinese (accidentally, I guess). 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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