Topher Farmer Posted January 17, 2016 at 10:58 PM Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 at 10:58 PM Hi, everybody! I just recently began attempting to learn Shanghainese. I have mostly been receiving help from my friend and her mother, who speaks it fluently. I've done most of my learning by simply attempting to converse with the two of them and grasp onto whatever words that I took, but I'm looking for something more tangible to grab onto, so I took to the internet to find resources for learning the language, but to my dismay, they are terribly lacking. Can anybody recommend any online resources? I would prefer that they have audio and/or phonetic spellings, but anything is better than nothing. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eion_padraig Posted January 18, 2016 at 08:17 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 at 08:17 AM This might get picked up by people who share your interest if you put it in the non-Mandarin section. Not to be discouraging, but I doubt there would be much produced to formalize learning of Shanghainese. Even non-Shanghainese who move to Shanghai don't tend to learn the language. I can't think of any of my Chinese friends who knew Shanghainese if they weren't from Shanghai. I knew a handful of people studying Mandarin , who picked up phrases in Shanghainese that they'd spice up their Mandarin conversations with locals. I think they primarily did what you are doing by talking with friends and learning phrases and vocabulary. By contrast I know some non-native Cantonese speakers who live in Guangzhou and Guangdong (mostly Chinese), who've learned Cantonese. Are you living in Shanghai right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted January 18, 2016 at 11:30 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 at 11:30 AM Moved the topic. There are bits and pieces of info on here if you search for Shanghainese, but don't think there's anything systematic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted January 19, 2016 at 03:26 AM Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 at 03:26 AM Well, that depends on if you are decently confident with Mandarin or not. Over the last few weeks, I've actually found quite a few resources for Mandarin speakers. Most of which are online and free. There are also a few textbooks for Mandarin speakers, and an absolute wealth of sentences with native audio on Tatoeba. Just search English to Shanghainese with audio. I'm actually working on turning those sentences into an Anki deck right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted January 19, 2016 at 10:06 AM Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 at 10:06 AM Garrison, can you post those links - even if Topher can't use them, someone else will. Welcome to the site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted January 19, 2016 at 01:16 PM Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 at 01:16 PM Absolutely, just give me a day or so to separate the good resources from the bad. My search method was more of a "save everything that has anything to do with Shanghainese and sort it later" type than "get the good stuff" type. Thank you! I've been lurking for a while, it just never occurred to me to actually register until yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted January 19, 2016 at 01:21 PM Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 at 01:21 PM Glad to have you on board! Will look forward to the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted January 28, 2016 at 05:08 PM Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 at 05:08 PM *cough cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted January 29, 2016 at 01:33 AM Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 at 01:33 AM Sorry, right about when I last posted I got slammed with schoolwork. I should be able to get the stuff together this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted January 30, 2016 at 05:07 PM Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 at 05:07 PM Okay, here is the list. I'll admit that it is fragmentary and hardly comprehensive–but I hope it is helpful nonetheless. Books http://www.amazon.cn/%E6%96%B0%E7%89%88%E8%87%AA%E5%AD%A6%E4%B8%8A%E6%B5%B7%E8%AF%9D-%E9%98%AE%E6%81%92%E8%BE%89/dp/B00385WSRC http://www.sinosplice.com/life/archives/2005/11/15/shanghainese-study-materials http://www.cucu2009.net/cuxdgbgbp/ Text with audio (there is no standardized Shanghainese writing system, so chances are you will see different sources use different characters to represent the same word.) http://www.pearstories.org/shang/shang.htm http://shh.dict.cn/ This one is especially cool because of the decently large selection of topics. Each entry takes the form of a recorded and transcribed Shanghainese sentence with a Mandarin translation. http://www.fyan8.com/shanghai/bzshh.htm http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/search?query=&from=wuu&to=eng Especially good http://shh.dict.cn/dialog/ Generalized Wu Chinese http://wu-chinese.com/bbs/portal.php Shanghainese listening/video (Including courses for Mandarin speakers) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5D3A8AC48D972BC7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adPQqUTpYYI http://www.ximalaya.com/7456115/sound/3252174 https://chinesepod.com/library/courses/4-shanghainese/13 http://so.ku6.com/search?q=+%E6%B2%AA%E8%AF%AD%E7%89%88&ct=301989888&rn=20&pn=0&db=0&s=0&fbl=800&ie=utf-8 http://music.baidu.com/mv/15978698 Mobile apps http://www.148apps.com/app/1060358830/ http://www.duote.com/android/149754.html Other random resources/stuff I’m really not sure how to sort http://www.omniglot.com/language/numbers/shanghainese.htm http://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/shanghainese.php http://web.archive.org/web/20060720234110/http://local.sh.sina.com.cn/special/shanghaihua/ http://club.pchome.net/thread_1_15_6855743.html http://www.xici.net/d164309531.htm http://bbs.hupu.com/7085885.html http://www.x-weibo.net/u/2653201804/p_5.html http://www.pkucn.com/thread-151771-1-1.html http://input.foruto.com/wu/index.cn.html http://tatoeba.org/eng/tools/shanghainese_to_ipa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eion_padraig Posted February 2, 2016 at 06:19 AM Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 at 06:19 AM It reminds me of a professor I knew when I lived in Shanghai. He was from Sichuan, but he had lived in Shanghai many years. He lived with his wife, twin sons, and his wife's parents. I asked him if he understood or spoke Shanghainese. He replied he deliberately didn't learn Shanghainese because he didn't want to know what his in-laws were saying. I thought him a very wise man. Eion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted February 29, 2016 at 04:13 PM Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 at 04:13 PM I came across this book and mp3. Shanghai Dialect for Foreigners By Xu Ziliang Copyright 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted July 15, 2016 at 02:02 PM Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 at 02:02 PM Hey, I just found out that forvo.com has a pretty decent section on Wu Chinese (of which Shanghainese is a dialect). http://forvo.com/languages/wuu/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan Jialiang Posted July 16, 2016 at 03:33 PM Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 at 03:33 PM There are some textbooks and dictionaries specialised in Shanghainese on the market. As a Shanghainese myself, I find it pretty interesting but I doubt if they are qualified to be used as study resources. My advise would be talking with native speaker in Shanghainese as much as possible since such language has always been picked up by talking instead of learning in school. Though nowadays measures have been taken to "preserve Shanghainese as part of Shanghai culture", they are not effective as far as I can tell. Take my nephew for example, he speaks way better Mandarin than Shanghainese. Sometimes I talk to him in Shanghainese on purpose, and he can hardly continue our conversation. So... I dare to say that there are no systematic ways to learn a local dialect, which is something we should pick up gradually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fededem Posted July 19, 2016 at 01:10 AM Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 at 01:10 AM This youtube channel has a shanghainese lesson and many other videos in shanghainese: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLtKkbTxKfI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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