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Oracle bone translation help

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Hi,

 

Could anyone help me to identify some characters ans help translate the oracle bone i currently own which is not broken

Here is the pic.

 

Many thx in advance

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I'm not an oracle bone expert, but I know enough to know that this is a fake. The character 舌 shows up in a few places, but many of the other forms seem to be gibberish. The huge 虎 near the center is written in seal script, which is a huge anachronism (oracle bone script predates seal script by well over 1000 years). The ritualistic language usually used on these things is absent. The weird bubble characters for 天 and 工 (I assume that's what that's supposed to be) are another dead giveaway, as is the absence of divination cracks and the perfect roundness of the drilled holes. Also, the "characters" seem to be drawn on, rather than scratched into the surface.

 

Definitely a fake.

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Many thx for your answer. During my research i found That Oracle bones were still in use after 2nd mill and not only during Shang. It was sometimes used for genealogy or other purpose and not only divination. Characters aren't drawn but it is scratched.

any chance to translate in order to see what it tells?

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Here is an article showing that there had been some ox scapulae oracle bone done during warring states (which could introduce a part of se

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here is the article... thus showing that scripts Evolved

I understand it has high probability to be a fake but lots of ppl did also say the same things before accepting major discoveries, so it need thorough inspection...

6709-14391-2-PB.pdf

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6 hours ago, OneEye said:

the perfect roundness of the drilled holes

 

One of the first things I thought when I looked at that picture was "Wow!  Look how neat those holes are!"

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“ I understand it has high probability to be a fake."

 

Let's not be silly. You have a souvenir, and nothing more. One-Eye gives you the reasons. That character 天 there alone is definitive.

 

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3 hours ago, k43op5 said:

any chance to translate in order to see what it tells?

 

Like I said, it's mostly gibberish. Most "characters" on there aren't characters at all.

 

2 hours ago, k43op5 said:

Here is an article showing that there had been some ox scapulae oracle bone done during warring states

 

The script in the picture you showed isn't Warring States script, but a poor attempt at Shang oracle bone script.

 

It doesn't "need thorough inspection." It's a fake. An obvious one.

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Ok understood. Many thx for your help

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