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BearXiong

I've attached the raw entries of the user dictionary to this post. 

 

You can install the user dictionary based on the raw entries, but it could take a while to process (probably like an hour). To do so, in Pleco go to Settings -> Manage Dictionaries -> Add User -> New. Then give it a name e.g. "Freq". Click on the (empty) dictionary which you created, go to Import Entries -> Choose File, and select the file pleco_freq_dict.txt which I've attached to this post, and finally Begin Import.

pleco_freq_dict.txt

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Beelzebro

This is a great idea! Am I correct that adding user dictionaries requires the flashcard add-on? I use Anki but I might be tempted to buy the add-on just so I can add this dict haha.

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BearXiong

Ah, I didn't notice that but you're right. You need the flashcard add-on to access the user dictionary options according to this.

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dtcamero

this is super awesome...

trying to decide whether or not to study this word... is it obscure or daily use? here's the immediate answer for every dictionary entry... simply brilliant.

should be automatically adopted by pleco's @mikelove as a default service.

well done sir!

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mikelove

Cool project!

 

We actually do have a frequency list in Pleco already, but we currently only use it for sorting search results; we aren't really confident enough in it to encourage people to base their vocabulary study decisions on it yet. (to be honest for that I'd be more confident with something human-curated rather than with corpus analysis)

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ErwinHero

I know I'm late, but thank God for this BearXiong! I am not learning Chinese to pass exams. I am learning to increase work efficiency in China. This may save me hundreds of hours. Why this is not a default option to turn on is beyond me. It's not something that should be overthought--the value is incontrovertible. 

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sopsku

I loaded the plecofreq.pqb file and "played" with it a bit. I noticed some two character words that have definitions in say the ABC dictionary do show up in this FREQ dictionary (e.g.  纸鸢 is in both ABC and CC as the work "kite".) This in itself is not a major problem but it led me to take a look at the raw data file (pleco_freq_dict.txt). This file has freq numbers in the 300Ks, but is only 112137 lines long and therefore cannot have 300K+entries. 

 

The file is rather difficult to sort on say the weibo numbers but I think I was able to rewrite it and to do so (perhaps not without error.)  I found that the first 50K words were contained in a bit more that 50K lines (some special symbols are mixed in ) but then there are enormous gaps to get to the 300K's freqs in the remaining 60K lines. Hence I would conclude the dictionary may only be useful up to about the 50K  freqs.

 

Lastly, I can only seem to make the FREQ dictionary available from the reader or from a direct entry in the Placo dictionary search box. That is, if I take a word from the reader popup that is in the FREQ dictionary and then expand the popup  (click the box with up arrow) the FREQ dictionary is not available to entries in the CHARS tab.  Nor is the FREQ dictionary ever made available for entries in the WORDS tab.  Perhaps this is not the fault of this FREQ USR dictionary and has something to do with my installation. I have checked all of the boxes to configure it to be the same as all of my other dictionaries.  Can some comment if this is normal for USR dictionaries in general not to be available for entries in the CHARS and WORDS tabs? 

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sopsku

I asked:

"Can some (one) comment if this is normal for USR dictionaries in general not to be available for entries in the CHARS and WORDS tabs? "

 

So I installed the FREQ USR dictionary on an old Tablet (4-5 old). Both it and my newer phone (1 year old) are running Pleco 3.2.73 and FREQ is installed in an identical way on both.

 

FREQ dictionary seems to work in both the CHARS and WOOD tabs on the old tablet but not on the my phone. Phone is Android 7.0 and Tablet is 7.1.1. I find this very strange.

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mikelove

User dictionaries are not reliably supported in those at the moment, no - feature parity between user and Pleco dictionaries is an ongoing goal (and already in current development builds of 4.0 we’ve got them sharing about 95% of their search code, which makes that a lot easier) but at the time we launched the current design they were actually too slow to work well on those screens and so we left them out.

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