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Thumbs up for the Woohoo.

東野圭吾's 『容疑者Xの献身』 was the first Japanese novel that I actually finished. Quite liked his style and went on to read 『白夜行and several short stories from the Detective Galileo series. So 東野圭吾 to me is like 余华 to you. :) He's very popular right now in China. Just hope the translations are up to scratch.

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murrayjames

@艾墨本

 

Good luck on your goals this year! Are you overestimating the difficulty of reading《三体》? Reading《三体》seems much easier than writing a thesis in Chinese.

 

Also, have you written on this site about your experience writing a thesis in Chinese? I want to know how you did it 😀

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Lu

I agree on 三体. Obviously it contains a relatively large amount of very specialised and for that reason very difficult words, but apart from those it's not that hard. Harder than 活着, but easier than most other literature I've read. Easier than 三毛, even, I think.

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艾墨本
6 hours ago, murrayjames said:

Also, have you written on this site about your experience writing a thesis in Chinese? I want to know how you did it 😀

 

I have not, yet. I’m waiting to finish the whole process instead of doing incremental tidbits. So, I’ll post about it after defending it in March or April.

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roddy

Bump.

I don't have any Chinese specific goals at the moment, so I'm not an official participant in this topic. To justify my bump though, I am trying to get my running at least back to where it was after a couple of lazy years. Aiming for 3 times a week and 1,000 km - modest, but much better than I've done the last two years. 

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murrayjames

@Lu, best wishes with your blog! I wish I read Dutch.

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emuboy

Been getting decimated with uni the last 3-4 weeks and have really been struggling to keep up the Chinese. Some days I get home so late that I barely have time to do a few flashcards on Pleco before sleeping ... tragic :(! Previously I would make up a lot of Chinese study when moving around between places (on the train, bus or waiting in line), but now it's all taken up by my Anki flashcards for uni. Hoping I can get things more under control !

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Tomsima
2 hours ago, AdamD said:

1,500 days

 

thats...quite a milestone. What was your daily routine?

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Minimum 15 minutes reading and 15 minutes listening every day. Honestly I’d rather choose to have short breaks than go through the motions, but 1,500 days was probably ridiculous too.

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imron
6 hours ago, rebor said:

Up next is likely 家

From personal experience, I would probably skip this for now.  家 was one of the first novels I read and it was slow going in parts (doubly so for the sequel 春, although things picked up a bit again in 秋) and these novels all had more complex and in some cases outdated language compared to modern novels.   I think it's worth reading the 家 trilogy eventually, due to the cultural and historical background you'll learn from it, but in hindsight I wouldn't have read these among the first few novels I read.

 

If I hadn't been forcing myself to read everyday I probably wouldn't have finished them.

 

I know you mention you are going to be forcing yourself to read everyday, but I think there are other more suitable entry-level novels that will require less forcing.  I often recommend 余华 because his writing style is quite easy to read.  《活着》and 《许三观卖血记》are two of his easier novels, and with your current reading experience I think they'll be more suitable than 家.

 

家 isn't going anywhere (it's almost 90 years old already), and if you come back to it after 5-6 novels you'll have a much nicer reading experience.

 

Whatever you decide, make sure you have the next novel on hand before you finish your current one (this goes for all future books as well).  That way when you finish one, you won't need to spend any time thinking about what to read next, which can sometimes stretch in to days and then weeks and months of not reading.  Instead, you'll just pick up the next book from your pile and carry on.

 

6 hours ago, rebor said:

I realize the profound irony that this promise to create a chain comes at the heels of AdamD's breaking his.

1,500 days is really impressive.  I've never had a chain go that long.  That said, it's always a good idea to regularly assess the study habits, techniques and methods you are using to see if they are still working for you.  What works at days 1-30 might not work at day 1,500 and it's ok to make adjustments as necessary.

 

Always be in control of your tools, rather than letting the tools control you - which incidentally is why I also recommend regularly deleting flashcard decks.  I hope you keep up with that practice as you start to read more.  You'll find that regular reading acts as a much better 'spaced repetition' algorithm anyway.

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Flickserve
On 2/18/2019 at 5:56 AM, AdamD said:

So now I’m focusing on what I like most: reading, character learning, grammar and online chats. I’ll get to listening and speaking later when I find my mojo.

 

I’ve also booked a flight back to Taiwan, but this time I’ll put a lot less pressure on myself, and will take a completely different approach to language exchange.

 

Knew you would be back 😁

 

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Lu
15 hours ago, rebor said:

Up next is likely 家

I hesitate to disagree with Imron, but as I remember 家, it's not particularly difficult. It has some old-fashioned Chinese, but it is written in a relatively small number of words, so once you've encountered a word, you'll likely see it again until you remember it. If (when) you start on this one, make sure to check out the dedicated 家 thread. (It says 'Book of the Month', but don't worry about that.)

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imron
6 minutes ago, Lu said:

I hesitate to disagree with Imron

It wouldn't be much of an interesting discussions forum if everyone always agreed with everyone else.

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AdamD
20 hours ago, imron said:

That said, it's always a good idea to regularly assess the study habits, techniques and methods you are using to see if they are still working for you. 

 

Yeah, and I didn’t reassess. Perhaps the best plan is to aim for a 200 day chain, or just leave enough leeway in your goal that you’re not effectively wasting time and making the whole thing a chore. I completely forgot to enjoy myself.

 

14 hours ago, Flickserve said:

Knew you would be back 😁

 

…I’m trapped in this language, aren’t I? 😉

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roddy
1 hour ago, AdamD said:

Yeah, and I didn’t reassess. Perhaps the best plan is to aim for a 200 day chain, or just leave enough leeway in your goal that you’re not effectively wasting time and making the whole thing a chore. I completely forgot to enjoy myself.

I've been trying 12-week years for... well, just over half of one, I suppose. The idea is here, although I haven't used the website and only skimmed the book very quickly. But the basic idea of quarterly goal-setting seems solid (every company ever can't be wrong). So aim for an 84 day chain, then reassess. It's long enough to get something substantial done, but not so long you forget what the point was in the first place.

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