abcdefg 4,266 Report post Posted February 8, 2019 If you enjoyed the big China-X course by the Harvard team of Prof. Peter Bol and Prof. William Kirby a couple years ago, here's another (smaller) one just starting. It's about the Tang. Lasts 15 weeks. Here is the official descriptive blurb: Quote About this course By the Tang period, China was divided into northern and southern dynasties with different rulers and political systems. The north was conquered by relatively unsophisticated barbarians, but in the south, the aristocratic families established a refined appreciation of writing and literature. In this course, the third in a large collection covering all of Chinese history, you’ll learn about the Cosmopolitan Tang and the reemergence of great aristocratic clans. You’ll discover how these clans formed a kind of state aristocracy that dominated Tang government and society. This period — a product of the Medieval period, and of the development of Buddhism and Daoism — gave the world a model for modern statehood the great cosmopolitan empire that defined it is among the highest achievements in Medieval culture. Join us to discover those achievements through readings of classical Chinese poetry and a review of the ancient art of calligraphy. Here's a link for more information or to sign up: https://www.edx.org/course/china-part-3-cosmopolitan-tang-aristocratic-culture-2 I plan to take it. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abcdefg 4,266 Report post Posted February 8, 2019 Started tonight. One of the things that distinguishes these Harvard "China-X" courses from most of the other programs that I've studied on line is that they draw on a wide and rich variety of resources. It's not just one (or two) professors talking about this or that, but the two main professors bring in about 20 other distinguished authorities on particular aspects of the subject. They sometimes "interview" these authorities, most of whom are Harvard faculty, about their special domains. More often, these other experts give a couple of "guest lectures." When discussing Tang pottery, they bring in an expert from the art department and actually take a "field trip" to the Harvard Asian Art Museum. Similar approach with music and poetry. Inventive and innovative. Never boring. I got a taste of Tang during part of the long China overview course a couple years ago. Now look forward to learning more in this short, focused one. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amytheorangutan 136 Report post Posted February 8, 2019 Thank you @abcdefg. I have just signed up for this and so far have watched 4 videos. Really interesting and easy to digest. Really cannot wait for the part on poetry and calligraphy. I'm currently reading the biography of Li Bai so really want to know more about Tang poets and poetry. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roddy 5,288 Report post Posted March 12, 2019 How are you both getting on with it? Anyone else signed up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
realmayo 1,770 Report post Posted March 12, 2019 Great to see this - @abcdefg I agree with what you say about the first course. Does this one have anything from Stephen Owen in it? As far as I'm concerned he's basically god. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeppa 99 Report post Posted March 13, 2019 I have just signed up. Looks very interesting but have not started yet. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeppa 99 Report post Posted March 13, 2019 They very briefly show Stephen Owen in one ofthe introductory videos, not long enough to get an impression of his godlike qualities. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abcdefg 4,266 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 3:58 PM, realmayo said: Does this one have anything from Stephen Owen in it? As far as I'm concerned he's basically god. I haven't yet reached the material which features him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibu 90 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 my reply to intro video Quote I saw the contradictions from the intro video of the course, one claims the course is a mirror for Chinese , the other said the course is ONLY for American to understand China. That is fun !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Publius 1,614 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 I barreled through the first section (Section 12: The Unified Empire) one evening but then lost interest. It's -- how shall I put it -- too easy, too simplistic, not as engaging or interesting as is promised in the introductory video. It's just, to quote @abcdefg, "one (or two) professors talking about this or that." They probably did it differently in the first course. Things will probably improve in later sections. But I've lost interest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amytheorangutan 136 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) I almost finish section 13 about Tang Poetry. If you are a beginner in Chinese poetry like me and interested in it, I think it’s a good primer. It discusses a couple of poems by Dufu and Wang Wei in details. The structure of Tang Poetry, the restriction of regulated verse etc. The part with Stephen Owen is mainly a discussion of a poem by Wang Wei with his students on how to read Chinese poem, how to understand and appreciate it, how do you know a good poem from a bad poem, can someone who doesn’t understand Chinese read and appreciate Chinese poetry etc. This is my first time joining an online course like this and I really like it so far. Very informative and as I say a good primer but you definitely have to see much more than 2-3 poems being discussed in details by people who know what they are talking about before you have a reasonable understanding of Chinese poetry. I only have one part to finish I think on section 13 then the next section is on calligraphy. I’m not sure but I think I might do better in calligraphy than poetry. Edited March 14, 2019 by amytheorangutan 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
