mungouk Posted October 6, 2019 at 08:56 AM Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 at 08:56 AM Maybe it's common knowledge, but I just discovered this by accident... Copy something to the clipboard on my mac. Open Pleco on iPhone, go to dictionary search. In the search box press and hold until "paste" comes up. Hit "paste". It pastes in the contents of the mac's clipboard. That's with both phone and mac connected to the same Wifi network—not sure if it works otherwise. edit: even faster... force-press the Pleco icon and select "Clipboard reader" from the shortcut menu. Exceptionally useful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppa Posted October 6, 2019 at 05:31 PM Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 at 05:31 PM Thanks - it works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
大块头 Posted October 7, 2019 at 12:33 AM Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 at 12:33 AM I use the clipboard reader function a lot. It's a shame that the Android version will no longer have it soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted October 7, 2019 at 12:46 AM Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 at 12:46 AM 13 minutes ago, 大块头 said: It's a shame that the Android version will no longer have it soon. I didn't know that. Disappointed at that news. It's useful feature. I use it more than once every day. To Pleco if you are listening in: We Android users will really miss that feature. Please think twice before removing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
大块头 Posted October 7, 2019 at 07:57 PM Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 at 07:57 PM It's not their fault. Android is changing the way apps can access the clipboard. https://twitter.com/plecosoft/status/1106023144232505345 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelove Posted October 7, 2019 at 09:43 PM Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 at 09:43 PM @mungouk - thanks! Credit there is actually due to Apple but it's a very cool feature, yes ? (though one which will hopefully become unnecessary at whatever point our Catalyst app ships) @abcdefg - yeah, it's on Google's end, sadly. It still works perfectly happily on Android 9 or earlier, and we have no plans to remove it for users of compatible versions of Android, but in Android 10, apps are no longer allowed to access the clipboard in the background; they decided the security consequences of malicious background apps being able to spy on passwords or other sensitive stuff people were copying to the clipboard were worse than the consequences of banning useful apps like ours from monitoring clipboard contents. At the moment, your best bet is to simply 'share' the text with Pleco (often accessible from the same menu you use to copy it) instead of copying it to the clipboard. We hope Google might eventually allow us to bring this feature back by offering a CLIPBOARD_MANAGER permission or some such, but there are no signs of that being imminent. (and of course if they did offer that permission, you'd have people getting prompted to enable it to use a free coloring book app or whatever and they'd be right back to the current situation) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
大块头 Posted October 7, 2019 at 11:58 PM Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 at 11:58 PM Speaking of Pleco telepathy, @mikelove must check this forum every time he sneezes. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted October 8, 2019 at 12:35 AM Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 at 12:35 AM 2 hours ago, mikelove said: At the moment, your best bet is to simply 'share' the text with Pleco (often accessible from the same menu you use to copy it) instead of copying it to the clipboard. I understand. Thanks for sharing this workaround. A big tip of the hat to Pleco! It has been my every-day companion now for several years. Would be hard to live without it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawei3 Posted October 8, 2019 at 05:19 AM Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 at 05:19 AM 4 hours ago, abcdefg said: Would be hard to live without it. Can you expand on this? Why do you like it so much? I use the free version as a dictionary. I wonder what I'm missing.... And I always like to learn about new tools for learning Chinese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungouk Posted October 8, 2019 at 08:31 AM Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 at 08:31 AM 10 hours ago, mikelove said: whatever point our Catalyst app ships Will this require moving to Catalina? I have no plans to do that due to all the apps I have that will no longer work (plus I usually wait at least 6 months before upgrading OS anyway). Regarding the clipboard telepathy, how does this work? Is it part of "Hand Off"? Seems like a potential security hole, unless it only works with paired devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted October 8, 2019 at 08:37 AM Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 at 08:37 AM 19 hours ago, Dawei3 said: Can you expand on this? Why do you like it so much? I'm afraid it's mostly simple, low-tech stuff. Nothing very sexy. The main thing I like is that Pleco stores the words I look up in the dictionary. This lets me do lots of short real-life-based reviews. For example, earlier this week I watched the Beijing Open tennis finals. Picked up some new tennis words. They were automatically held for me in "history." On day two I sort of remembered a couple of them when I heard them again, but wasn't 100% sure. So I checked them in "history" instead of doing a brand-new lookup. Also, I systematically add all those looked up words to a flash card list. I make a new list every week. Review those words when I'm riding on the bus or waiting somewhere killing time. Plus I do a weekend review or maybe two. This lets me cement the useful ones in memory. I eliminate the esoteric stuff, but keep most of these looked-up words for a couple months. Then I delete them, figuring that if they are words that I really need to know, they will pop up again on their own. So all day long, every day I'm looking up words as I go about daily life. Pleco gives me several more shots at remembering them, at transferring them from my phone to my brain. ---------------------------- Here are some words I looked up during the tennis matches. Some I already knew, but hearing them again used in a different context allowed a welcome real-time review. Plus they are now in my flashcard stack for another run through or two this coming weekend. Spoiler Tennis match Beijing Open 风格 力量 角度 奋斗 天福 配合 差别 流产 上当 脚步 常规 同步 失误 给力 交锋 双误 也许 乐观 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelove Posted October 8, 2019 at 01:49 PM Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 at 01:49 PM 5 hours ago, mungouk said: Will this require moving to Catalina? I have no plans to do that due to all the apps I have that will no longer work (plus I usually wait at least 6 months before upgrading OS anyway). Yes, unfortunately Catalyst won't work with older versions of macOS. I've had to say goodbye to quite a few apps too but I kind of resigned myself to the fact that that had to happen soon anyway because eventually I'll upgrade my computer and won't have a choice. (it sounds like Apple are finally about to launch a laptop with a keyboard that doesn't utterly suck, for the first time since 2015, so I expect a lot of people who've been holding off on upgrading for a while will end up in the same boat) 5 hours ago, mungouk said: Regarding the clipboard telepathy, how does this work? Is it part of "Hand Off"? Seems like a potential security hole, unless it only works with paired devices. It's part of Handoff, yes. My understanding is that the security is quite robust - it does indeed only work with paired devices - but it can be turned off in the system settings if you don't like it. (in the early days it was kind of slow and buggy and a lot of people turned it off because otherwise you'd have to wait like 10 seconds for 'paste' to work on your iPhone while it figured out if there was something to sync from your Mac) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawei3 Posted October 11, 2019 at 05:57 AM Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 at 05:57 AM On 10/8/2019 at 4:37 AM, abcdefg said: I'm afraid it's mostly simple, low-tech stuff. Nothing very sexy. This was helpful. I like hearing the techniques others learn to use (I'm sure there are some better ones than I have). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyJonesLocker Posted October 11, 2019 at 01:42 PM Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 at 01:42 PM On 10/8/2019 at 1:19 PM, Dawei3 said: Can you expand on this? Why do you like it so much? I use the free version as a dictionary. I wonder what I'm missing.... And I always like to learn about new tools for learning Chinese. OCR /screen reader is a must for me. Use it about 30, times a day Graded readers, read many. Stroke order diagrams Flashcard I bought but never used , was a mistake. ANKI just a much more poweful system , but lacks definitions. ANKI is like the raw ingredients. PLECO is the set meal. Depends on what your after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelove Posted October 11, 2019 at 03:15 PM Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 at 03:15 PM 1 hour ago, DavyJonesLocker said: Flashcard I bought but never used , was a mistake. ANKI just a much more poweful system , but lacks definitions. ANKI is like the raw ingredients. PLECO is the set meal. Depends on what your after The long-awaited 4.0 update has both an Anki importer and an Anki emulation mode, so we're hoping we can convert a lot of people back ? (not separate code, but our new rules-based scheduler was powerful enough to allow us to mimic most of Anki's behavior with a preset collection of settings; was made easier by the new Anki scheduler update, since that got rid of a couple of irritating little idiosyncrasies like reviewing child decks within a parent deck strictly in order and according to their own daily limits) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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