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I recently visited the apple store.

 

After coming home, I wondered if anybody was using the iPad for language learning in more novel ways.

 

There's the split screen function where you can have multiple apps open which I think could he very useful.

 

1. Can write notes for reminders, Vocab, phrases, sentences.

 

2. PDF files can be written on like a notebook. You can photograph pages from your textbook, make notes on it and have your Skype, zoom open at the same time side by side. Would it be better to use face time?

 

3. If you were to use Skype, zoom could you record the conversation to mp3 or M4a for review?

 

4. If you are reading a newspaper, you could perhaps more easily copy and paste sentences or vocabulary.

 

There are the usual things like anki, writing characters, consuming media. A bigger screen is easier than a smart phone screen..

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mungouk

The split-screen function is relatively new to iOS, and I've just recently started using it on my 10.5" iPad Pro with an ebook open on one side and Pleco on the other.  It works pretty well. 

 

For viewing large PDFs like books I usually use GoodReader which is an excellent app and very fast.

 

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6 hours ago, Flickserve said:

If you were to use Skype, zoom could you record the conversation to mp3 or M4a for review?

 

Yes to both. I think with Zoom you have to be the originator of the call to record it; not sure — after all the recent bad press Zoom have been rushing through a lot of privacy/security changes.

 

https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12395/how-do-i-record-my-skype-calls

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/203066759-Recording-on-iOS-and-Android

 

Facetime isn't really that good for lessons IMHO... it assumes vertical orientation for video and screen-sharing is technically possible but a bit cumbersome.

 

Of course the other win compared to a laptop is the touchscreen, so you can practice writing characters with Tofulearn or Skritter.  Actually I think a phone screen is probably better for this, as the characters you write wouldn't be so big.

 

I really like it for reading ebooks too. With Pleco the ebooks you can download are much too fiddly on a phone, but on a bigger tablet screen it works very well.

 

Recently I've started using it to scribble on PDFs with the Apple pen, and to record video commentary while I do it (to make a "screencast" as feedback for my students)... this works great. I've not had any need to do it for language learning though.

 

Again, not specific to language-learning, but I really appreciate being able to use the iPad as a second monitor for my Macbook laptop while having Skype lessons (you can extend the OSX desktop to it). I used to have a nice big second monitor but had to get rid of it when I became nomadic. Having another screen  is really handy for reference material or taking notes during a lesson if your main screen is taken up with Skype screen-sharing already.  I use duet for this, which apparently works with Windows PCs too.

 

Clearly most of these would also apply to any tablet compared to a phone or laptop. One difference with iOS is that the Apple App Store and iCloud work inside the Great Firewall, whereas of course Google Store/Google drive etc don't, if you're using Android.  I presume iPads are way more expensive than Android tablets as well.

 

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Flickserve

Wow. This sounds really good. 

 

The split screen function is something that was promised a number of years ago on samsung Android. The user experience in practice turned out to be a huge disappointment. So much so, it put me off tablets for a number of years until present day. Then, I was attending a postgraduate course hoping to utilise a tablet for that.

 

Recently, I have seen students using iPad much more effectively, especially the ease of writing on to PDFs and lecture notes. That's much more efficient than our paper notes from before. 

 

Post Covid, I see seminars and conferences playing a increasingly important role over the Internet to gain bigger audiences for sheet convenience.

 

Yes. The price is high. I could get some discount for using up airmiles points.

 

43 minutes ago, mungouk said:

10.5" iPad Pro

 

Given that I currently don't have any iPad, is there any advantage of the larger 12.9" version over 11" version? 

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On 5/19/2020 at 5:19 PM, mungouk said:

I think with Zoom you have to be the originator of the call to record it

The host can record, or give permission to others to record.

 

I've been ogling iPads for a while now, but I can't quite justify it. There'd be some advantages to bringing my tablet onto the same OS as my watch and phone, and I might make use of split-screen for taking notes while doing other stuff, but realistically that's not enough and I think I'll be sticking with my current tablet (last generation Amazon Fire 10, which is great for the sub-£100 I paid for it). If I was buying an iPad (or indeed any Apple stuff) I'd be looking at the Apple refurbished store - nice middle point between buying new and second-hand. 

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mungouk

Talking of iOS, this is in the release notes of 13.5 which just came out... Yet another sign of the times.

 

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Shame it doesn't just do the face-recognition thing with the mask on... I thought I'd read recently that the face-rec in train stations etc can do that now.

 

 

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mikelove

FWIW, I think mouse support on iPad is going to be *huge* in ~6 months or so when iOS 14 is out and the mouse APIs are a little more fleshed-out. There are some weird omissions at the moment, but we've nevertheless been able to add experimental mouseover support to our document reader (even when editing!) and by the end of the year I expect it'll also be possible to do stuff like trackpad handwriting (nicer than trying to write on a vertical touchscreen), mouse steering in FPS games, repositionable floating windows, etc.

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mungouk

Thank you @mikelove.... whenever you pop up here you have such great news and wisdom for all of us. 😀

 

 

 

 

 

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