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mungouk

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I came across this image in my WeChat feed and dutifully set about deciphering it... I reckon it's (read R-L) 新創是求, but that's not my question.

 

It seemed pretty clear that it's 新- - -是求 and would be read right to left (I'm guessing "求是" is common in Chengyu).

 

The third character from the right was the one I had trouble with.  I presumed it's traditional.

 

I could see the 刂 component in there, and what I thought was maybe 名 with something over the top.

 

Eventually after trying and failing many times to draw it in Pleco, then browsing a lot of characters with the 刂 component I stumbled across 

 

        倉 +刂 = 創    chuàng (start, create, establish). 

 

So that makes sense.

 

So here's my question: how do you go about identifying a character from multiple components when you don't recognise all of them? 

 

I often use MDBG's component search feature like this, but it only allows you to search on one component, not two or more:

 

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Is this something that a character dictionary 字典 would allow me to do?  

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

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Wenlin lets you search for characters containing two or more components.

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歐博思

Microsoft Pinyin (Sougou Pinyin had this last time I checked too) lets you type “u” followed by radical/piece names to build a whole character, and most importantly, it tells you the pronunciation of the character at the end.

 

What I did to test:

'u'+'cang'+'dao'

=

chuàng/chuāng

 

edit: realized this still wouldn't help if one didn't know the 倉 part in traditional script

 

tl;dr - learn traditional, damnit!

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Jim

We got taught with paper dictionaries back in the day so I basically know the radicals and you can look it up under that and the number of strokes in the remaining part.

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mungouk
36 minutes ago, Jim said:

know the radicals and you can look it up under that and the number of strokes in the remaining part.

 

Aha, right — that would do it.  I just discovered that Pleco lets you search visually by radical. Never did that before on Pleco, although I do it often on my IME when typing.

 

I think with that character on the stone, what threw me off was the long, sweeping top part (which looks like 2 strokes)... that, and thinking that there was a 名 in there.

 

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mungouk
3 hours ago, 歐博思 said:

tl;dr - learn traditional, damnit!

 

It's on my list! 

 

Just let me get HSK 5 and 6 out the of the way, then whatever HSK 3.0 brings... and I'll be right onto it.

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Demonic_Duck
56 minutes ago, mungouk said:

I just discovered that Pleco lets you search visually by radical

 

You can do that on MDBG, too.

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mungouk

@Demonic_Duck thanks.  (Why is that not in the top menu instead of hidden inside a burger?)

 

Today is so full of learning!  

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Singe
8 hours ago, Demonic_Duck said:

You can do that on MDBG, too.

 

Nice little table and well presented.

 

@mungouk, I also didn't know that Pleco lets you search by radical.

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