timseb 57 Report post Posted September 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, 杰.克 said: "A Genius Polygot's Guide to becoming Fluent in Chinese" I just want to make clear I don't think it's about being a genius (a word I rarely, if ever, use). I think it's about hours spent, and I think I've made that pretty clear by now. And I still think "it's gonna take ten years" is just as demotivating as "it's going to take 6 months" (a figure I haven't seen thrown around much here or anywhere else). Language learning takes time and effort, that's really all one neeeds to get a grip on. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
杰.克 147 Report post Posted September 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, timseb said: Language learning takes time and effort, that's really all one neeeds to get a grip on. Finally! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PerpetualChange 238 Report post Posted September 3, 2020 If there's a problem with this thread and the various alternatives mentioned, it's this: there is no "normal", there is only what applies to you. Some people are studying Chinese as a full-time effort after already learning a few other languages. Some people are studying Chinese for 30 minutes per day and have no previous language experience. Some people will have the opportunity for immersion. Others will not. And so on. What is "normal" and how long you'll take to get proficient in Chinese depends entirely on who you are and what you are able to do given your current life situation and background. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
杰.克 147 Report post Posted September 3, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:43 PM, 杰.克 said: This is generalised. It's not my path, it probably wont be yours. There will be outliers and exceptions that do it much quicker/slower. The title is intentionally misleading. There is no guide to becoming fluent in mandarin. Fluent - is such a varied and changing word. We all have our own interpretations of what this means. It's really amorphous. There are no fixed levels of fluency. There is no socially fluent, work fluent etc. It's not an achievement on xbox that you either have or don't have. The aim of this thread, is hoping people aren't so hard on themselves, and realise progress takes time. To relax and enjoy it, rather to constantly worry, I should be "fluent" by this point. Agreed! Everyone has their own path! So many variables to take into account. So relax somewhat, enjoy it 🥳 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites