Demonic_Duck 1,355 Report post Posted September 17, 2020 I think sometimes there's a slight diphthongization of yun/ün, but never an /i/ sound. I actually think the guy in the video is pronouncing it correctly when he says it quickly, but his analysis of the sound is wrong, so it becomes incorrect when he slows it down. I definitely wouldn't analyze or teach it as /yin/, only /yn/ or /ɥyn/. Similarly, yin/in can be /in/ or /jin/, but never /iyn/. Or to use his terminology: yin/in — smile, but don't kiss yun/ün — kiss, but don't smile 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites