道艺黄帝 98 Report post Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, Tomsima said: Amazing you passed the Chinese driving license exam before an HSK exam, that's an achievement in itself I would say 1 - most of the 驾照 language is focused on either 交规, 路标 , or 车辆操作, where as I find hsk 5 & 6 content scattered all over the place 2- there's too much impractical language/'书面' stuff in hsk, which makes it hard for me to focus on To be fair, I have passed hsk 2 & 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imron 5,237 Report post Posted January 3 14 hours ago, 道艺黄帝 said: 加油 to everyone else Now that you're driving, 加油 (literally) to you too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
艾墨本 698 Report post Posted January 5 After a pretty rough year, I don't even want to look at my language goals from 2020. On the one hand, after about four months of really solid studying starting of the year it all tapered off and I didn't really pick it back up until a month or two ago in large part due to switching jobs, dealing with COVID, and other personal things that happened. On the other hand, with all those experience now turned to memories I'm ready for a fresh start. At this point, my language ability has mostly stabilized in the advanced range. What I mean is that recall and fluency is very rarely a challenge at this point. However, I want to move from sounding fluent to sounding educated, which means starting to develop a more robust literary vocabulary as well as branching out into more specialized vocabulary. I feel like I'm back in the "collecting new words" phase after spending a lot of time digesting many years of learning, an advantage of some time off of studying while still living in China. So, my modest language goals for this year are: 1) Learn 3 new words per day and spend 20 mins studying/reviewing vocabulary. I assume I'll have some days that go beyond three and hope to hit 1000 by the year's end. In the interest of developing literary Chinese I'm getting these words from the collection of essays used for the 普通话水平测试 which has the added benefit of moving me toward a long term goal of passing that test with a high score. I want to reach the same score required of native speakers to be 语文 teachers. 2) Write one essay (>1000字) each month and go through two rounds of feedback and revision. This is a new one for me and will consider it on trial while I figure out how well it works into my life. I welcome feedback if anyone has set writing goals before. 3) Read the books I have on my shelf: 《红高粱家族》、《蒋勋说宋词》、《一只独立行的猪》、《白夜行》、《雅舍小品》. The last one is a challenge but I'm hoping that after building up my literary vocabulary in the 1st goal I'll be closer to comprehensible input when I return to it. I also have 《吾国与吾民》but have been told the original English version is much better than the translated version. However, it's also a classic so I might try to read both. I won't be using vocabulary from these from my 3 words per day and will instead just take what I get from passive learning. 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luxi 819 Report post Posted January 5 2 hours ago, 艾墨本 said: Write one essay (>1000字) each month Nice goal! I don't know whether this would be any use to you, or too basic, but it may be useful to others also interested in writing. A preliminary before jumping into the deep end of literary and academic essays. There are school help sites with many examples of primary and secondary school 作文. I think they could be helpful for people studying on their own or with only limited contact with tutors. There many of these sites, this is just an example: 中小学生作文网_中考高考满分作文_初中作文_高中优秀作文大全 (zuowen.com) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BearXiong 77 Report post Posted January 5 This year will be my 7th year of Chinese! How time flies 😄. Still have my eyes set on getting to a pretty decent (but far from perfect) level of Chinese by the 10 year mark. My biggest goal for 2021 is to improve my speaking skills. I've developed some fairly good daily study habits based on some posts by imron which I was fortunate enough to read pretty early on. One goal is essentially to just keep with it. 1) Have 150 hours worth of voice calls on HelloTalk. I've decided to keep a log of the hours. So far I've done 4 hours and a half and it's only been 5 days 😃. I probably did 100+ hours of this last year and it's worked wonders for my speaking ability. One nice consequence of this is that I've gotten much better at understanding accented mandarin. Having a voice call with a girl who grew up in the villages of Sichuan or a guy in Guangdong with a super non-standard accent does wonders for understanding accented mandarin in a way which watching TV shows really can't compete with. 2) Learn 4 new words per day in Anki. I'll bump it up to 5 if I end up my bumping down the number of characters I learn per day. 3) Go through 500 new characters in my Anki deck. That'll bring me up to 4000 characters in my deck. Right now I'm doing 3 characters a day but will tone it back to 1 or 2 characters per day if need be. 4) Watch at least one episode of some TV show a day. I tend to watch an hour or two of Chinese videos/shows each day. Maybe a better goal would be to do at least 30 minutes per day. I'm rather fond of 相声 so listening to half an hour of 相声 instead of a TV show would work just as well. I'd like to read more novels but honestly even if I were completely fluent in mandarin I still wouldn't read all that many novels so I consider it a secondary goal. I think it's better to practice what I intend to use the language for. Having said that, I'll still make some effort to read. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feihong 571 Report post Posted January 5 7 hours ago, 艾墨本 said: 2) Write one essay (>1000字) each month and go through two rounds of feedback and revision. This is a new one for me and will consider it on trial while I figure out how well it works into my life. I welcome feedback if anyone has set writing goals before. Although my current blog on this site is not a traditional blog, it does involve a lot of writing and review. The scheduled publishing feature of the blog is a motivator for me to keep up the pace of one post per week, which I have managed to maintain for more than a year now. I see no issues with maintaining that pace over the coming year since I’ve gotten used to pre-publishing posts months in advance. I’m not sure if one post per month would work for me, though, as the interval just seems too long. Maybe you could consider publishing your essays in parts, which I see a lot of other blogs do. Another thing I do is load my drafts into Notion. This allows me to work on posts on my phone during spare moments and also shows my edits in real-time during live review sessions. Google Docs might be good enough for your purposes, but I need the extra structure provided by Notion. There are probably specialized writing apps that do a similar thing but with less need for custom workflows, but I haven’t looked into them. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomsima 1,252 Report post Posted January 11 I'm dropping by after the first week or so of building my 2021 targets into habits to do a bit of revision while I can. I've been working on shorthand translation of articles written in Chinese and discovered there is much more benefit to collecting and studying new and useful common vocab from the process rather than trying to finish a whole article then move onto the next translation. Perhaps I'll come back to my second goal later in the year, but right now I'm going to change my second goal for 2021 to: Fill a notebook with key words and phrases, Chinese > English shorthand. Heres a photo taken of the first page, from today (not meant to be arty, just taken with the rear camera from my laptop) 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woodford 4 Report post Posted January 11 I've been studying Chinese for about 4.5 years overall, with 3.5 years being "serious" (2-4 hours a day of SRS flashcards and reading practice, with additional time spent listening to Chinese podcasts). I have worked through 8 books since Fall of 2019, albeit with a system of review (reading each book 3-4 times over--which has been my practice all along, even since the days of graded readers). I tend to think it helped my speed and confidence, but I'm just getting tired of it. So this year, I want to take a more casual approach where I read everything just once, and commit new vocabulary to my flashcards. I need to dial back the intensity of my routine anyway, as I have a lot of other responsibilities piling up. So my goals this year are: 1. Read more casually and for fun 2. Approach (not necessarily reach) a vocabulary flashcard deck of 20,000 (I'm at 15,000 now, and new words are slowing down to more of a trickle) 3. Upgrade my listening comprehension from "meh" to "acceptable" (I know that's subjective) 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calculatrix 6 Report post Posted Tuesday at 09:06 AM Hello everybody, I have been reading in this forum for some months, and I think this thread is a good occasion for a first posting. I have studied Japanese about 30 years ago (and forgotten most of it), and when Corona came I was searching for some online MOOC to brush it up. But since I could not find good Japanese MOOCS but lots of Chinese ones I decided to start something new. So far I have finished "Chinese for Beginners" at coursera.org which was Pinyin-only; then "Chinese for HSK1", and now I am in week 4 of "Chinese for HSK2". My plans for 2021: Practise with Anki 30 minutes every day. Finish the last three weeks of "Chinese for HSK2" until March (yes, I need more than one real-life-week to complete a week of the course). After that I plan to reward myself with a good Chinese grammar book and recap all the grammar points I have met so far. And then I am not sure if I should go on with Coursera's "Chinese for HSK3" or buy some chinese readers. My long-term-goal is to pass the HSK3 certification by the end of 2021 or in 2022 (skipping HSK1 and HSK2 certs). But first things first. Half an hour of Anki every day. This forum is really great and I got lots of information and motivation already. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haveheart 15 Report post Posted Wednesday at 02:41 PM Mandarin Get back into a routine of: -watching tv everyday -reading 30 minutes a day -making 10 new flashcards a day (currently using Migaku tools and it makes it an absolute breeze) -going to start taking some italki classes to add more structure too, if anyone has recommended teachers I'd love to hear about them. Last year I made 1350 new cards mined from tv shows, which is only 3.7 a day. Better than nothing I suppose! Cantonese In the last week of 2020 I started learning Cantonese. I'm taking it slow as to not burnout but I'm finding it really fun so far. Knowing a bunch of mandarin has definitely helped. So far I'm just reviewing words I learned during weekly Italki lessons and turning them into anki cards. On 1/1/2021 at 12:57 PM, lechuan said: Weekly italki Cantonese lessons with Gary I've had 4 lessons with Gary so far and he's great! What a coincidence to see him pop up here. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites