Please help resolve a bet

[DUDUBIRD69]

My father and I have a 10 dollar bet on this. He says it's Arita ware and I say its Chinese kraak. Who do you say wins?

 

Thanks

 

     

[889]

The mark is 九谷 "Kutani." Of course a mark can never be taken as decisive this is in fact Kutani ware.

[Yorin]

As https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraak_ware says:

"Kraak was copied and imitated all over the world, by potters in Arita, Japan and Persia—to which Dutch merchants turned when, after the fall of the Ming Dynasty in 1644, Chinese originals were no longer available"

 

Even if the mark can not be taken as decisive that it is in fact Kutani ware, I think it's pretty decisive that you wouldn't find it on Chinese ware.

And given that according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kutani_ware it is "the modern understanding that much, if not most, of the Ko-Kutani production was around Arita", so that those wares are grouped together, I think your dad is very probably right.

[EricJMa]

On 5/10/2022 at 6:50 AM, Yorin said:

I think your dad is very probably right

Story of my life.

[DUDUBIRD69]

Thank you guys for the explanation, for now 1-0, my dad 1, me zero