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  2. Worth emphasing that advanced textbooks are native content.
  3. Cocoa butter substitutes is not a healthy food, don't suggest to eat them, but this one is definitely for people to eat, not for pet. The cat and dog above refers to single women and men, it's a feature for the food brand. And the Pets Rock is a registered trademark.
  4. DavyJonesLocker

    北京还是上海?

    I mean for heating purposes, just something i remember googling before living in london (portable air heater v portable oil filled radiator), different city, different climate though, different appartment. I presume a built-in air conditioning unit (on the heating setting) is just recycling and reheating the air inside the room. Wouldn't make sense to such in super cold air and heat it up. I mean the 2KW oil filled radiators (4 wheel portable ones) are cheap as chips (50quid upwards in UK) A load of people still use them there. They nearly all come with timers and thermostats now. Easy option for folks down south china in winter i would have thought
  5. anonymoose

    北京还是上海?

    How do you define efficiency? An oil heater essentially turns 100% of the electricity used into heat. An air conditioning unit uses the energy to suck heat from outside, so not only does the electricity get turned into heat, but you get the addition of the heat sucked from outside. But as these machines cost quite a lot to purchase, and installation involves drilling a hold several centimetres across in the wall for the air inlet/outlet, it is not the kind if thing to arrange if you are just renting a place short-term. Nevertheless, the vast majority of apartments in Shanghai have these now.
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  7. I agree. Unless you need the pressure of an exam deadline to keep yourself motivated, I would suggest you go into native content ASAP. I switched to native content after HSK 3 (never sat the test) since I hate textbooks and their stupid excercises. If I had not switched to native, I would probably have stopped studying Mandarin altogether. I am using Lingq (premium version) and I am reading books, blog posts, movie transcripts/subtitles, etc.
  8. 889

    北京还是上海?

    ". . . never seemed to be an issue away back when i was growing up." You grew up in a 600 sq ft flat in a Chinese high-rise? With no garage, cellar, attic or shed out back to store stuff?
  9. DavyJonesLocker

    北京还是上海?

    as a heater? i would have thought it would be quite inefficient actually given its not its primary purpose. For example according to the some UK energy saving websites the oil filled heaters are often cheaper than air heaters. never seemed to be an issue away back when i was growing up. Every house on the street had a two bar electric far, bottle gas superser and a portable rad. However i take your point of having a 2 in one function for an air conditioning unit. Although I still never understood the argument of the "south is cold in winter and it need to be taken into account if you wish to live there", we are not talking Haerbin style weather. I have seen people mention it on here too! Just seems like a trivial issue to me. Different mindset perhaps.
  10. 889

    北京还是上海?

    A heater also takes up space in a small flat, where do you put it the rest of the year, and if the are children around there may be safety concerns. Besides, if you're going to have an A/C unit anyway for cooling, it's not that much more to get one that also includes a heating function. Of course in really cold areas, a dual A/C unit may not be sufficient. But it's perfect for a place like Shanghai.
  11. Is there an assumption here that most people won't have looked at native materials until they've passed HSK6? I'm sure that's true for some, but equally sure it's false for others. I completely agree that for anyone who has passed HSK6 without looking at native materials, it's almost certainly a good idea to start. That may hold true for passing HSK5, too. But for people who have recently passed HSK6 and have also watched lots of TV, read novels and magazines - don't neglect advanced level textbooks! If they're advanced enough, they'll contain only native materials (plus glosses for proper nouns), but they're native materials that experts in teaching advanced Chinese to foreigners believe are particularly useful for advanced learners to read and study. As for novels, a couple of years ago I started a page with links to novels I and others had read, but then - I think this is just coincidence - I gave up Chinese. https://www.chinese-forums.com/forums/topic/53547-book-list/
  12. anonymoose

    北京还是上海?

    You can, but why would you do that when an air conditioning unit is much cheaper to run?
  13. @Flickserve Are you speaking Cantonese too? It sounds awesome Actually we have two kinds of vocabulary volumes, one for spoken foreign language and the other for written language. The latter is usually larger than the former since we are always looking up the dictionary without paying attention to the pronunciation when we come across the alien word or read the translation instead of listening carefully. Practice listening a lot is to activate all the vocabularies we claim that we know. The dilemma you mentioned as a-d would see the solution by repeating what you have heard, since every time you try it, find what's getting in the way and then shut it down, you are accumulating something useful for the future. Moreover, it's a challenge to our listening comfort zone, too
  14. @abcdefg I like your sense of straightforwardness. Admittedly, it takes a long time for us to do a good job in shadowing or even echoing. The progress is slow and it could be depressing sometimes. It is all about repeating and analyzing the pronunciation, digesting it good enough to build the connection between pronunciation and meaning. We just learn our mother tongue by echoing what the adults are saying. And our parents won't tell us that we should give up speaking just because we have made tons of mistakes and still have problem repeating something correctly after trying hard. So it is important to have this kind of patience and stamina in us
  15. Jimmy J

    Mandarin 3rd tone concern

    Thanks 889, you have answered my query Also thankyou for taking the time to do so, it is appreciated
  16. 889

    Mandarin 3rd tone concern

    If you're reading the word 冰水 all by itself, going down a vocabulary list for example, then 水 will take the full third tone value, because there'll be a pause after the word. If you're saying 冰水 in a running sentence, then 水 will take the abbreviated low value (unless at the end of the sentence or before a natural pause). 你喜不喜欢冰水喝? 你喜不喜欢冰水?
  17. Thank you! I made them a 瓷砖承包商.
  18. Jimmy J

    Mandarin 3rd tone concern

    My apologies if I'm sounding a tad ignorant here, but I'm still none the wiser reading 889's linked webpage as to how this applies specifically to my example. I am very new to Chinese learning and am embarrassed to need a more basic explanation I'm very pleased though to have found this forum as everyone seems very willing to help us newbies So, to pronounce "bing shui" , the shui part is pronounced as a low flat tone, is that correct? But to pronounce "Shui" by itself would utilise the falling/rising tone? Thanks Jimmy
  19. If you’ve gotten to HSK6 then you probably are ready to take the plunge into traditional characters by simply reading material that contains traditional characters. Actually a lot of reading material is only available in traditional characters, which is how I ended up learning traditional. And I don’t have any immediate plans to go to Taiwan. If you already know most of the characters you need to read the newspaper in simplified, then you don’t really need pre-made flashcards for traditional. You can guess what most traditional characters are if you already know the simplified version. At most there might be a few hundred that are different enough to stump you, and for those you can quickly add flashcards from inside Pleco Reader.
  20. DavyJonesLocker

    北京还是上海?

    I hear a lot of chinese people tell me that they are cold in winter. I'm always puzzled and think "er .... can't you not just buy an electric / gas /heater oil filter portable radiator " It's the way I grew up. Is it just too costly for the average folk? My friend warns me about this in considering whether to take a job in Shanghai. I told her it's not even a consideration . Depends on affordability I suppose but I wonder how much Kuai we are talking about.
  21. 889

    北京还是上海?

    Because Shanghai is south of the Yangtze, historically buildings don't have central heating and can be damp, chilly and uncomfortable in winter. But in recent years, those dual heating-cooling A/C units have become very common across China, so îf you're looking for a place to live, just make sure it's got a dual A/C unit. And a quiet one at that: look where the compressor is placed.
  22. suMMit

    北京还是上海?

    天津
  23. @imron Following on @Shelley post above, if I recall correctly you have been studying (exposed might be a better word) Chinese for 20 years? Care to comment on milestones, or perhaps how your level changed after the 5 , 10, 15, 20 year mark etc. E.g did you just taper off after 5 years etc? Question open to any long term learner!
  24. Flickserve

    北京还是上海?

    What’s the heating like in winter in Shanghai? I heard there was a designated north south divide in China in so far, the design of winter heating is different.
  25. Not too new a word, but you'll find it in some recent news reports: 杯葛 "boycott"
  26. That's a great tip, as the scope of Chinese Cursive Script is indeed remarkably small in scope. Another observation worth noting is the fact that quite a lot of the cursive forms in the book have fallen out of use among younger generations, who now write in a modern simplified style not based on classical calligraphy forms. Some characters were described by a few Chinese friends as well-written, but illegible.
  27. If you can read Chinese (and at HSK6 you should be able to), a better resource is 席殊3SFM实用硬笔字60小时训练. It's much more comprehensive than 'Chinese Cursive Script'. I agree that Chinese Cursive Script is an excellent English introduction to reading Chinese handwriting.
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