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Showing content with the highest reputation on 03/13/2020 in all areas

  1. 5 points
    I was thinking much the same, but now I'm starting to think the UK government knows what it's doing, even if what it's doing may be very wrong. They assume that lots/most people will get the virus sooner or later. They believe that it would rebound after any kind of lockdown. Lockdown for 4 months now and you risk a peak at the start of NEXT winter. And they want a decent cohort of the population to have got through it and acquired immunity. I don't know - very unclear, they haven't explained their thinking. But if you assume there's nothing you can do to stop most people getting it eventually, then it changes the logic a bit. Personally I'd like to see a lockdown and then use the couple of extra months it might give us to build up to the kind of mobilisation/organisation seen in China/HK/Singapore. Because even if its spread is inevitable in the UK, reducing its speed of infection must be a good thing, ensuring better hospital care for everyone.
  2. 2 points
    Yes absolutely they are. Life is turning back to normal slowly (not there yet, but moving that way) and new cases seem to be under control, even in Wuhan by now. Having even a little tiny student activity in Shanghai this week was a very happy moment for me. However, as an immersion Chinese language school what we do is to help people to experience Chinese and live immersed in that cultural environment. And international travel is an integral part of this. So the current outbreaks in Europe and the US are hitting us (and I am sure not just us, but all Chinese language schools) even worse than the one in China did. Plus, the way it is looking this is going to be an ongoing thing, potentially for quite a long time with international travel restrictions. The news coming out from the German, UK etc. governments currently sound more like most people will get infected and this will take a year or two maybe to finish. We are very lucky that we have been around for a long time and are very stable as a company so we will get through this, even if it takes a year or two. I know just five years ago we might not have. A lot of other companies in China that will not. It is really not very happy to see. But then I have no idea what the future there will bring. Who knows, it might just all be much better. I certainly hope so. For the moment we are working full speed on our online classes - our teachers need the work even more than we as a school do and we will try everything possible to achieve that. Ok, enough moaning....things change, sometimes I feel quite optimistic, sometimes not at all. Today is more of the second type, but then that might already be very different tomorrow.
  3. 2 points
    Yes. The Centers for Disease Control (which USED to be very capable, i.e., before Trump) discusses that N95s can be reused, even in healthcare situations, as long as the mask retains its structure & function. https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/hcwcontrols/recommendedguidanceextuse.html Friends asked if the mask should be "disinfected". No - whatever you treat it with will likely disrupt its structure & function. The link above discusses a study in which viruses were applied to masks and the masks trapped 99.8% of applied virus. Also, viruses don't grow on masks. However, CDC recommends disinfecting your hands before removing the mask. I wonder who is most inactive, the US or the UK. The US's minimal rate of testing is a tragedy/crime. The latest is that insufficient reagent is available for the tests.
  4. 2 points
    Depends on the type of mask. Surgical masks are one use. The 3M N95 type are multiple use unless they’re visibly soiled. There’s still a limit. Masks do expire apparently. I saw some news article about a Canadian stockpile of expired masks. Not sure how that actually affects them though.
  5. 1 point
    There is sustained evidence for asymptomatic transmission. See below https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762028 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.03.20029983v1.full.pdf https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/control-measures/pre-symptomatic-transmission.html
  6. 1 point
  7. 1 point
    It's not exactly as if we voluntarily control the amount of virus going into our bodies...... Sounds like they will go down the letting everyone get infected (the weak and some previously healthy will die as collateral damage). Where does that leave the rest of the world trying to control outbreaks then? All a wasted effort?
  8. 1 point
    The arguments against school closures in the UK are interesting. Kids aren't that badly affected by Coronavirus If kids don't go to school, the parents can't go to work. This will badly affect the NHS/healthcare providers. If kids don't go to school there is more chance they will hang out with their grandparents, increasing the grandparent's risk of getting infected There's an interesting debate raging in the Chinese community in the west. Those born in the West believe the western belief that you don't need masks. Those born in Asia, and who've experienced SARS etc, firmly believe in masks. However there are no masks for sale at all here. All the debate is about "flattening the curve" ie controlling the peak of patients so the NHS is not overwhelmed. Probably not a good time to point out that due to chronic underfunding, the NHS was already overwhelmed before Coronavirus. For the first time in 3 years, the debate in the UK is not dominated by Brexit.
  9. 1 point
    The whole idea that masks do not work is pretty dubious. While in theory the pores may be too large to filter viruses, most health care workers are told to wear them. If they would not protect them from the virus, the number of infected health care workers would be much higher. So, they probably are doing something. In the west there is a stigma about wearing masks: https://time.com/5799964/coronavirus-face-mask-asia-us/
  10. 1 point
    Five minute video here of the UK's chief science guy explaining a bit about why some measures aren't being taken yet. Was quite reassuring to see a scientist with a graph. Not sure if I'm thinking about this right, but this approach doesn't bode well for people hoping to get back to China? If the UK is trying to let it slowly play out among the population, while China's determined to keep it out of the population... we'll have quarantines right up to the point we have vaccines? Edit: also, has anyone else discovered they're an inveterate face-toucher? I can't keep my hands off myself, it seems.
  11. 1 point
    But the theory -- yes, just a theory -- is that while most may eventually get infected, social isolation will flatten out the infection curve, slowing the nonetheless inevitable progress. That'll reduce the stress on medical resources by spreading infections out. Problem is, politically it's very hard for leaders to say, "Basically you're all going to test positive after a year of this." So they pretend social isolation and entry restrictions will stop the disease.
  12. 1 point
    it appears the uk is going down the let everyone get infected route: "Majority of people in the UK need to get a mild dose of coronavirus for 'herd immunity', chief scientific adviser says" sounds like a massive gamble to me. dammit 2020, two months of isolation, then the govt here is just like, yeah just get infected actually…
  13. 1 point
    There's some background on UK decisions here. I wonder if the UK knows fewer of its essential workers have the money / family to handle childcare than other countries, and so school closures have more of an impact on hospitals and so on. Scotland has ( or is in the process of) ending major events, but more to relieve pressure on emergency services than prevent infections, I think. Shops are low or out of pasta, painkillers and the like. Going to be an interesting... spring? Summer? Year?
  14. 1 point
    The online classes are going well, but it is only a small number of students studying unfortunately. We have dozens of Chinese teachers sitting around with nothing to do which is really not a great situation. We are in the process of creating a new website for online classes., should hopefully be finished next week. Our Shanghai school opened again and we had our first (very small) student event with a screening of 妖猫传 at the school yesterday. Beijing is still under lock down and people are not allowed to enter most buildings still. Chengde and Beihai are running normally and we just started construction on our new Beihai school this Monday, which is a nice thing to do as it is building something new instead of the constant walk towards doom that everything else feels like. This situation is a bit shitty for everyone, but I am telling you you particularly do not want to be running an immersion Chinese language school at this point in time.
  15. 1 point
    In HK, all lift buttons are covered by a clear plastic sheet for ease of cleaning. The sheets are also replaced frequently. A behaviour learnt during the SARS period.
  16. 1 point
    "We are considering banning major public events like sporting fixtures," said Johnson. "The scientific advice is this has little effect on the spread - but it does place a burden on other public services. Johnson added: "We are guided by the science; there is no medical reason at the moment to ban such events." If this is the 'scientific advice' the uk gov is getting, we clearly need to step up our international awareness…can't believe we're just sitting here waiting for it all to happen over here now. Every statement on the response to the virus seems to include the words "at the moment", serious lack of preemptive action, how on earth people are still not scared seeing whats happening in italy right now is beyond me…
  17. 1 point
    Interesting text with great graphs: https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
  18. 1 point
    "I have to say, i think it's possible China will come out of this well." This of course is the Chinese propaganda spin. It's All the Foreigners' Fault Conveniently forgetting how the entire world ended up in this disaster after a Wuhan doctor was charged by police in December with "spreading false rumours" after he tried to alert colleagues of the risk posed by the new virus. And let us not forget that all those restrictions on news dissemination make knowing the true situation in China impossible. The Great Leap Forward was hailed as quite a success in its time, remember.
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