When Did You Stop Using Pleco/Anki/Flashcards

[Flickserve]

For some people, SRS seems to be really good. But it is not the bee's knees. I have had some difficulties in the recall. I set the cards  up for learning listening skills. Seem to get it right but there is a lot of disconnection and if I leave it, there are quite a number of problems in recalling the sentence later. Subsequently, I use it less and less. I do pull it out sometimes but not as often as I thought I would. It might not be a good medium for listening skills.

[Lumbering Ox]

45 minutes ago, Demonic_Duck said:

_ flash card _ have been a _ in my Chinese learning since I started studying 4 years ago. I can probably _ _ _ _ the number of days that I have not studied _ over the last few years. Although I still love Chinese, I see the _ of studying flashcards (even spaced out through _) as such a big _.

 

^ That's your first couple of sentences with a roughly 20% non-comprehension rate (words/phrases selectively omitted based on how high-level they are). Are you sure you mean 2 in 10 not 2 in 100? Because this would be essentially unreadable

 

A, system, feature, count, them, effort/work pain.

 

I looked up the original above and it seemed pretty much right. Not the exact same words but close enough for understanding although a bit off for learning the words via that context alone.

 

Granted a lot of my guess work is from context. Some random sentence about forestry or how the Marxist Feminist Dialectic brings all the boys to the yard and I might be a bit more off.

[Lu]

21 hours ago, realmayo said:

The problem is where I have a blind spot on important words. For some reason, for years, I just can't get 监督 right in SRS. I don't know what to do about troublesome-but-important words.

If there are not too many of those, I suggest making a little note with word, pinyin, meaning and one or two example sentences and hanging it somewhere where you'll look at it often (I suggest the bathroom, at eye level, but whatever works for you). Through sheer exposure it'll eventually stick in your brain. And then you can put it back into your SRS pile, if you still need it at that point.

 

[Publius]

58 minutes ago, Lu said:

and hanging it somewhere where you'll look at it often (I suggest the bathroom, at eye level, but whatever works for you)

Haha, a biologically driven SRS system

[imron]

2 hours ago, Lu said:

I suggest the bathroom, at eye level

Back in the day, that's how I learnt the period table of the elements, a big chart on the back of the bathroom door - Hydrogen, Helium, Lithium, Beryllium, Boron, Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Fluorine, Neon.....

[Lumbering Ox]

12 hours ago, imron said:

Back in the day, that's how I learnt the period table of the elements, a big chart on the back of the bathroom door - Hydrogen, Helium, Lithium, Beryllium, Boron, Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Fluorine, Neon.....

 

I'd tell a chemistry joke now but all the good ones Argon.

 

 

[Lu]

Another method for stubborn words is basically just heavier SRS: look at word and definition. Say out loud ten times. Look away, say ten more times. Do something else for two minutes, repeat word and definition (or whatever you're learning) a few more times. Do something else for ten minutes, repeat. Keep repeating throughout the day and the next day, before and after every meal, before and after every other thing you do. After a day or two, it should be lodged well enough to put in your regular SRS pile. (This is how I often prepare for interpreting assignments. It usually comes with some amount of specialised vocab that I didn't know before, and I usually don't have more than a few days to prepare, so I repeat, repeat, repeat.)

 

Of course, this one, too, only works if you don't have too many of such words.

[realmayo]

On 27/02/2017 at 1:01 AM, Publius said:

Hmm are you fishing for some more examples?

Even if I wasn't, thank you!

 

On 27/02/2017 at 1:01 AM, Publius said:

They say it's just a person looking down at a receptacle full of water (using it as a mirror)

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We know supervise comes from Latin super 'over' + videre 'see' ⇒ to oversee.

A very fine memory hook, thank you again

 

[realmayo]

27 minutes ago, Lu said:

Another method for stubborn words is basically just heavier SRS

 

Good point and a reminder that SRS is as heart just a regular vocabulary list, but with an algorithm that means it more efficient.

 

Vocabulary lists have of course been used by most people learning languages at some stage. Or at least, in a scenario where you're an adult, learning a language not close to your own, outside of the country where the language is spoken -- I'd guess the overwhelming majority of such people have made important use of vocabulary lists.

 

[Chris Two Times]

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I'd tell a chemistry joke now but all the good ones Argon.

 

H...hydrogen

He...helium

Li...lithium

 

Aha...the element of surprise.

[Shelley]

I think the way I use flashcards and SRS is a bit different.

I don't add words to an ever increasing list/deck until it becomes unmanageable and daunting.

 

I have a separate deck for each lesson (labelled as lesson 1 etc.) so my earlier lessons had maybe 7-10 but as the lesson progressed the number increased to about 30-50. I study each lesson's list along with the lesson as a whole. I study the list quite extensively during the lesson which lasts about 2 weeks.

 

When I move on to the next lesson I start a new list with the lessons new words and study these.

 

Every so often I will go back and do the previous lesson if I have forgotten some (which is usual) I then study the list again as review. I also review all my previous lists sort of randomly just to keep it all fresh.

 

I find this method works for me, I would feel very stressed if my list was in the thousands or even the hundreds, I just wouldn't start and it would all get out of hand. Doing it in handy sized chunks is encouraging and doable.

 

I will carry on doing lists as long as I have lessons and new words. I will probably continue to use Pleco flashcards for ever but not necessarily intensively.

 

[Lumbering Ox]

16 hours ago, Chris Two Times said:

Aha...the element of surprise.

Chuck Norris doesn't recognize the element of surprise.

 

I hear Batman is rather fond of Sodium.

 

Na Na Na Na Na... Na Na Na Batman!

 

I ordered some H2O at a bar and my friend ordered some H2O to, it did not turn out well.