hongputaojiu Posted February 19, 2013 at 09:52 AM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 09:52 AM Hi guys I am school teacher and just retrained/graduated teaching chinese as a foreign language. We are starting a chinese program in my middle school, so my IT department has asked me to choose which pinyin input method I would like. The standard on our Windows7 is very clunky and I dont like it. I trialled installing Sogou, but I found random popups which were a bit inappropriate randomly appeared :-0 I like sogou input, but I dont know why the random popups occurred! Does anybody have any suggestions/experience with this? Is there a more suitable/safe install that we could use? Cheers hongputaojiu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted February 19, 2013 at 10:04 AM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 10:04 AM Google Pinyin every time. And get Pinyinput while you're at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted February 19, 2013 at 11:05 AM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 11:05 AM I second Google pinyin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hongputaojiu Posted February 19, 2013 at 11:17 AM Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 11:17 AM thanks guys, I really appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshton Posted February 19, 2013 at 03:46 PM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 03:46 PM +1 to Google Pinyin, Windows 7 also has a native pinyin engine that you can try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiongNu Posted February 19, 2013 at 09:18 PM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 09:18 PM Why do you guys pick google pinyin over sogou? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted February 19, 2013 at 09:50 PM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 09:50 PM Re #6, I had used sogou for a while but IIRC gave it up because of the pop-ups. I just found it very annoying. Reason here -> http://www.chinese-forums.com/index.php?/topic/24605-advice-on-computer/page__st__40#comment-244303 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted February 20, 2013 at 01:06 AM Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 at 01:06 AM Sogou does have constant pop up ads. I tried to delete the ad generating executable once, but it was self-generated by Sogou again, like a Trojan horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow Posted February 20, 2013 at 02:05 AM Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 at 02:05 AM Sogou does have constant pop up ads. I tried to delete the ad generating executable once, but it was self-generated by Sogou again, like a Trojan horse. If thats the case, maybe you can replace it with a dummy exe file(which do nothing on execution) with the same name, or remove it and create a folder at the same place with the same name(ext needed, like 'xxxx.exe'), and set it to read-only, sometimes it'll do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted February 20, 2013 at 02:34 AM Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 at 02:34 AM Or use Google Pinyin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bates Posted February 20, 2013 at 02:24 PM Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 at 02:24 PM Google pinyin, in some way, don't have enough vocabularies, including some slang s///yingku英 库 input maybe a good choice, it's a micsoft s product, and the metro is cool//in fact, many Chinese using a improved sougou input without pop-up, it can be found in some Chinese websites, you know, not a official product.//qq 拼音输入法纯净版 qq input ( without ads) is a official edition// all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiongNu Posted March 16, 2013 at 04:30 PM Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 at 04:30 PM Gah I tried google pinyin, it was awful. It always thought it knew better than I what pinyin I was trying to enter. Always assuming I was making a mistake and giving me a common word with pinyin similar to the one I typed but totally wrong since it's not like I get pinyin wrong very often. Can't use the thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted March 16, 2013 at 10:41 PM Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 at 10:41 PM Re #11 and #12. I don't think there is a problem with the vocabulary of Google Pinyin. It is intelligent enough for me. And I don't get pinyin wrong very often, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM Of course it's going to give you the most common option first. Google can't read your mind*. Which input method did better? *Can it? I haven't been keeping up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiongNu Posted March 26, 2013 at 08:04 AM Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 08:04 AM You didn't read my post carefully enough and I didn't explain it as super clearly as I could. I will enter pinyin and google pinyin will give me the characters that in fact do NOT have this pinyin, but pinyin close to it. The characters/word it gives me are generally more common than the one I am trying to enter, this is what I mean by google pinyin thinking it knows better than what I'm actually trying to enter. For example (one of MANY). I try to write guanliao zhuyi de cengceng zunao (bureaucratic obstruction) And google pinyin gives me this 官僚主义的沉沉阻挠 instead of 官僚主义的层层阻挠 now 沉沉 is not cengceng, it is chenchen, but this is still the first option that google gives me. I know I am trying to write cengceng （层层） and not chenchen （层层） google pinyin. This expresses my problem with google pinyin and I encountered it countless times in my trial run of using this software. Other examples I try to write 各阵线 （ge zhenxian) and google first presents me with 个争先 （no, not what I asked for, I know the pinyin, trust me please!) I try to write 我造成 （wo zaocheng) and google first gives me 我早晨............it just goes on and on and on. Google pinyin tries to predict mistakes I may be making far too much. Sougou trusts me and I get what I want written a lot faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted March 26, 2013 at 09:25 AM Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 09:25 AM Is it perhaps the case that you have fuzzy pinyin turned on on Google, and off on Sougou? Menu (the cog icon), 属性设置， 启动模糊拼音 - is that ticked? Untick it. Problem solved. Assuming that is the case (and I'm pretty sure it is) - fuzzy pinyin is a feature designed for people who don't handle pinyin very well - basically people with strong ch/c and eng / en issues, etc, from various parts of China and who therefore find pinyin input more difficult. If you have it turned on by mistake then yes, it will look like it's making lots of bad choices, but you've actually told it that you're really bad at pinyin and can't be trusted. Sougou probably has a similar option - turn it on and see how good it is then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiongNu Posted March 26, 2013 at 12:14 PM Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 12:14 PM It felt curiously like it was trying to give me hints for what I might be trying to say if I was a regional speaker with less than great pinyin, thought there might be an option somewhere but didn't think to look for it. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted March 26, 2013 at 12:20 PM Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 at 12:20 PM Yes, it was much more efficient to post on here, at length, about how rubbish it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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