Ferno Posted February 9, 2006 at 06:48 AM Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 at 06:48 AM I have heard this many times, but it doesn't show up as any 2-syllable word in any dictionaries. Not sure about the tone on "bie" anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiYuanXi Posted February 9, 2006 at 06:52 AM Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 at 06:52 AM Hmm.. Can it be Ge4 Bie2? 个别， 各别 ？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC Posted February 9, 2006 at 08:14 AM Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 at 08:14 AM Or 特别 te4bie2 "especially" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amego Posted February 9, 2006 at 08:16 AM Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 at 08:16 AM Hmmm maybe its 可别 ke3 bie2 "你可别迟到。" "Don't be late." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbiesnecker Posted February 9, 2006 at 08:18 AM Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 at 08:18 AM Are you sure of the fourth tone on ke? If not, then it could be 可别, basically the same as 别 I think (as in 可别忘了). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerain86719 Posted February 9, 2006 at 11:25 AM Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 at 11:25 AM 可别， 可别~~~ means " dont do that . dont !" hehe , what a cute person you are to notice such tinny things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferno Posted February 9, 2006 at 03:34 PM Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 at 03:34 PM hmm thanks ... either i got the first letter wrong from some reason ( ) and it's "t" like NYC said or I got the tone wrong on "ke" i will listen for it again and remember the other words said with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferno Posted February 11, 2006 at 09:14 AM Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 at 09:14 AM heard it again with context... "wei4shen2me fei1chang2 .." i'm positive that's a 4th toen on "ke", and bie might be a 3rd tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted February 12, 2006 at 01:41 AM Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 at 01:41 AM i'm positive that's a 4th toen on "ke", and bie might be a 3rd tone. "ke4bie3" doesn't exist in Mandarin, it's hard to pronounce too. If you are certain "ke" is 4th tone, then it's probably 个别 ge4bie2, but then 为什么非常个别 doesn't make any sense. Actually, "为什么非常" and "非常个别" both sound odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferno Posted February 12, 2006 at 04:11 AM Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 at 04:11 AM (really, how is it hard to pronounce ) this is so strange i will keep listening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amego Posted February 12, 2006 at 05:16 AM Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 at 05:16 AM It not hard to pronounce. It just sounds weird as no such word exists. If you are certain "ke" is 4th tone, then it's probably 个别 ge4bie2, but then 为什么非常个别 doesn't make any sense. Actually, "为什么非常" and "非常个别" both sound odd. I'm quite sure that it is 特别 te4 bie2 "special" 为什么非常特别 "Why is it so special?" 非常特别 "Very special." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferno Posted February 14, 2006 at 08:22 AM Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 at 08:22 AM yes amego you are right I was listening to a program meant for Chinese learners of English, the speaker was talking about Valentines day.. she said "....special occasion, fei1chang2 ke4bie2..." and also later "ke4bie2 jie2ri4" which can only make sense as "special holiday" so my "ke4"bie2 means "special" and thus it's actually "te4"bie2 like you said.. this is strange, "k" and "t" are completely different sounds, with different toungue movements, etc... yet I continue to hear the "te" as "ke" . Maybe its because of the falling tone or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferno Posted February 15, 2006 at 06:52 AM Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 at 06:52 AM I just heard "te4bie2" on Chinesepod. Jenny says it at 7:45 in this podcast: http://media.libsyn.com/media/chinesepod/chinesepod124_C25_20060207.mp3 (nondirect link: http://www.chinesepod.com/podcast/category/intermediate/ and then lesson 25) can anyone confirm that there is no "k" sound at all there? Even a little bit? I am not hearing the "t" at all thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashiriKata Posted February 15, 2006 at 11:10 AM Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 at 11:10 AM can anyone confirm that there is no "k" sound at all there? Even a little bit? I can confirm that I heard it as "te4bie2"."k" and "t" are completely different soundsNot really. Both are (aspirated) voiceless stops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugi Posted February 15, 2006 at 01:04 PM Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 at 01:04 PM I could only hear it as "te4 bie2" as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferno Posted February 15, 2006 at 05:31 PM Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 at 05:31 PM alright, that's strange i guess... don't know what's wrong with my hearing :o thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferno Posted February 18, 2006 at 08:35 PM Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 at 08:35 PM I heard Ken Carrol (not Chinese) on Chinesepod.com pronounce "te4bie2" in one of the lessons, his pronounciation of the "t" seems much more like a "t" than a "k". perhaps the Chinese "t" and English "t" are different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferno Posted February 21, 2006 at 07:12 AM Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 at 07:12 AM okay guys for your information I isolated Jenny saying "te4 bie2" in a Chinesepod podcast and had a non-Chinese speaking friend listen to it - they hearded it as a clear "t" sound. guess my ears are broken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amego Posted February 26, 2006 at 07:54 PM Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 at 07:54 PM alright, that's strange i guess... don't know what's wrong with my hearing :o guess my ears are broken Don't be despaired Ferno, your 耳朵s have no problem, just listen more and you'll get it Anyway me too have a hard time listening to Japanese, which I'm learning now.I just can't seem to catch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and select your username and password later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.