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  2. Hello everybody, I have just received a few books of the Rainbow Bridge series and I was wondering if anyone here has vocabulary lists for them already. Specifically I have these 4 books: Xuanzang's Pilgrimage Bad Luck Guy's Sea Adventures Outlaws of the Marsh (Abridged) Journey to the West (Abridged) It's always a bit of a pain to pre-learn all vocabulary of physical books, so I thought maybe I'm lucky and someone here has done the work already 😀
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  4. A disclaimer when proposing using Defrancis with a Chinese tutor: it is likely some tutors may tell you the series is outdated and noone speaks like that anymore. This is an exaggeration; while there are a number of outdated expressions in the books, I would estimate about 90% is still totally normal and applicable today, and the remaining 'outdated' 10% is still in use among the older generations so is necessary to know anyway. The pedagogy is fantastic, and also highly recommend. Another suggestion for private study with a Chinese tutor: use it as an opportunity to be accountable to somebody. I did one weekly class with a teacher, where I would learn a dialogue by heart, then recite it to them at the beginning of next weeks class. Then we would go through pronounciation mistakes, areas I didn't fully understand, areas of interest which would be allowed to develop into discussion for speaking practice. Rinse and repeat for as long as you want/need. I learnt the whole of this textbook by heart in this way. I am a big fan of rote learning, but if you prefer more interactive styles, the defrancis method above may be more palatable.
  5. I can pretty much understand how you feel, I too think I never will be fluent in way, shape or form. But I haven't given up. The one thing you haven't listed is actually going to classes, regular, proper classes with a teacher and following a textbook and doing all the homework, attending all the classes and putting in the work everyday. I know you think you haven't got the time nor do you feel you can justify it but I think if you really want to do it, you will make the time and if it makes you happy, you need no other justification. I really think this is worth a try, evening classes at a local university or small private classes.
  6. Mofcom Scholarship will be open this year, but they still haven't receive notice from china so they can't accept applicants for now and ask me to check for the official announcement on embassy website ,If there is an official announcement means they start to accept applications
  7. [Whining mode on.] I have more or less abandonned all hope of being fluent (for any definition of "fluent") in Chinese one day. If I list the four skills, here's the result of about 11 years of sometimes obsessive and daily self-learning in a non-Chinese speaking environment: writing: I've never been serious about studying how to write correct, or even basic, Chinese. About two years ago, I had the opportunity to practice for a relatively extended period of time with a pen pall on HelloTalk and found that writing was a somewhat easy task, because you have the leasure to check your vocab and grammar (and because the reader was tolerant). But I no longer have a pen pall. So I've stopped practicing that skill altogether, since I don't need it. Never mind. speaking: I can ask my way to the station, sort of. But what's the point if I still seldom understand the answer? I've also spent several months meeting with Chinese students in my hometown and observed that I could get by if I knew in advance what we would be talking about and if I'd taken the time to prepare the key vocab and some basic sentence structures. Problem is I don't have much time to study. So I stopped seeing my conversation partners. listening: here's the major disappointment. I think I've tried all the methods that seem to work for some people here - mainly feeding podcasts (SlowChinese, San Ren Xing, ChinesePod, MandarinPod, Popup Chinese, Mandarin Corner, whatever) into Audacity or WorkAudioBook. Listen to bits of text, try hard to understand, sometimes transcribe, read the correct transcript, listen again. Of course, I've also tried movies and series, to no avail. For example, ChinesePod upper intermediate podcasts and Xi Yang Yang are still mostly a mystery to me. Switching to a Chinese radio station is humiliating: I seldom understand what they are talking about. I've tried such methods for extensive periods of time, but always ended up so frustrated by the lack of progress that I intend to stop altogether in the future. reading: I did make some progress in this field, though it's still an inmensely frustrating task to stumble through the vast majority of books. Last year, I just read a bilingual novel called 巴黎地铁 and three or four episodes of 猫日记, a collection for children; and that's all. For me, the so-called plateau is a brick wall against which I've been bumping for a long time. So, apart from venting off, I could ask a question: taking account of the fact that study time is limited and that learning Chinese, for me, is a socially and professionally useless activity, is it a wise move to abandon all activities but reading? The only thing that bothers me is that I suspect the four skills are mutually reinforcing, so consciously stopping to learn to speak and listen may *also* impair my reading. And - am I alone in that case?
  8. It was fascinating to look at the roman-only text without characters. Does it use slightly non-standard Pinyin? E.g., Zhei not zhe 这. Also, Hangzhou & Suzhou lack the 1st tone on their 2nd syllable. Is this an older way to romanize Chinese? It's also interesting how it splits words, i.e., "wudian zhong" not "wu dianzhong." Is this to try to represent how the phrase is said? (i.e., is it saying "say wu dian like it's one word?) How common is it to use "shang" as in the text "Wo bu shang Hangzhou"? (I don't know if I've ever heard this usage....???)
  9. Hai Everyone! Firstly, I already applied for a scholarship that suppouse to start on September 2019. I applied through the embassy, and I am a bit concerned since it's written that my status is sumbitted but it's not the final one. is it normal ? My embassy told me as well that there is no need to send the documents anywhere, and only apply online. Which sounds a bit wierd. Secondly, just in case, I would like to apply through University as well. my plan is to study Chinese for one year. does anyone know if there's still universities I can apply through them and not through the embassy? (that the deadline isn't over yet) Thank you!
  10. ShelbyR

    Keats School, Kunming - A Query

    When I’ve been there most of the small group classes have been attended by residents of Kunming. But last month I met a man who was staying at the school for a few months in the group class. I doubt that you’ll have a problem but ask. Maybe you can take some one on one classes during that down time?
  11. situation dialog and the right materials by teacher. You need learn some oral words and phrases, that is not a big deal for a HSK5 , you can do this by yourself. The meaningful talk with a real Chinese will do two things for you: 1. confidence 2. Let you muscles and tongue get used to Pinyin/Mandarin , which really need practice, it takes time. As a real HSK5, the student could finish a discussion or further explanation after reading an article.
  12. Afterwards I went back and someone else spoke, but I barely understood a thing. A friend who was with me said she was fast because she was nervous to see a foreigner. Later she caught me and told me (also in Chinese) that she had since realised she needed to speak a bit more slowly. All of this makes perfect sense.
  13. Thanks, I'll look in to it.
  14. Juraj 唐优来

    Introducing Chinese Text Analyser

    I am using high sierra (10.13.6). The yellow arrows indicate parts where I am able to scroll, red arrow indicates part where I am unable to scroll. Thank you.
  15. @EmperorTomatoKetchup Mine is Hebei Normal and Hangzhou Normal Yes I saw that as well, hopefully both of us can pass smoothly! So what stage are you currently in?
  16. EmperorTomatoKetchup

    Confucius Institute Scholarship 2019

    Fujian Normal in Fuzhou and Qingdao. And you? I'm a bit worried because when I filled out the online form it said that they don't recommend applying for the one-year programs since they already received a lot of applications. I did it anyways, finger's crossed.
  17. @EmperorTomatoKetchup that make sense. Besides during Jan - Feb there should be a chinese new year break in the middle. Probably we can travel then! May I know which university are you applying to?
  18. EmperorTomatoKetchup

    Confucius Institute Scholarship 2019

    thanks! My confucius institute told me, that September to August is the general duration but it depends on each university. One student worker told me, her course was until July, when they had the final exam. After that you can basically go home already, if you want to. This corresponds to what I just found on another website: "Chinese universities follow a two-semester system to comprise a full year of study. A year-long course consists of two consecutive semesters; either Spring followed by Fall, or Fall followed by Spring. The fall semester typically runs between September and early January. Spring semester starts in late February/early March and runs through mid to late June." http://www.chinastudyabroad.org/programs/study/mandarin-programs/21-programs/mandarin-programs-tabs/63-semester-year So there's a break between January and March, which allows you to travel the country I suppose.
  19. @EmperorTomatoKetchup for me around 1 week from stage 2 to 3. 2 weeks from stage 3 to 4. I dont know the sem breaks but the one year program supposed to be held on Sep until Aug 2020 I hope it helps!
  20. Probably a good idea to mention that the "DeFrancis" set of texts consists of at least a dozen or more volumes, first divided into textbooks and readers. And then the textbooks are divided into romanized only (with the grammar explanations), and then characters only (traditional characters without grammatical explanations). I think the screen shot is from the romanized (pinyin) textbook series. The texts are widely available either as new reprints or secondhand. I fully support 889's recommendation of using the DeFrancis series as a basis for drilling with a tutor. Full audio for you to practice with is available from one of the Apple websites. And you don't need the character texts to do the grammar drills, although your tutor would probably want the characters only version. The screenshot is probably from Beginning Chinese, the first volume in the series. If you have any troubles finding a copy (Romanized for you, and chararacters only for your tutor) , lemme know. TBZ
  21. anonymoose

    One Small Step Forward For Man, One Giant Leap For Civilisation

    It's common in Japanese. I'm not sure if it has any official status in Chinese, but you see it occasionally in hand-writing.
  22. TheBigZaboon

    One Small Step Forward For Man, One Giant Leap For Civilisation

    And especially not by a Japanese cop...
  23. Sichuan University! If you like spicy food and the idea of a not too international/western-influenced city with a lot of culture, come to Chengdu!
  24. 谢恩灵

    Translation help!

    Yeah 成熟 is right
  25. Richard_

    Keats School, Kunming - A Query

    Hi everyone, has anyone studied in the small chinese group classes? I have a doubt. I payed the deposit and they sent me an email with all the info. Only one thing: I applied for 32 weeks and I thought I had to do it consecutively but it is divided in fall and spring semester. So if I understood correctly there is a period between the end of the fall semster and the begin of the spring where I don't have class. In this period can I stay in the Single room I booked or do I have to find something else on my own?
  26. StChris

    One Small Step Forward For Man, One Giant Leap For Civilisation

    Thanks, I've never come across that character before. Never heard it called an "honest John" before!
  27. "DeFrancis" refers to a series of old and famous Chinese textbooks by John DeFrancis filled with hundreds of pages of drills of various types. Here's a sample of one type of drill, from the beginning-level textbook. Note the drills are to be done very rapidly: you respond automatically, as in everyday speech, without mulling over the answer first. Of course you need to take a look at DeFrancis yourself and decide if you're up to that approach.
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