daxia Posted October 12, 2006 at 11:55 AM Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 at 11:55 AM Hey all Im thiniking about learning 草书 with 钢笔 (not毛笔). I know that it is very hard both to write and to read, but I am very fascinated by it. Can anyone here write 草书 ? I have heard that when you write 草书 you use a mix of 简体字 and 繁体字. Is this true ? How long did it take for you too learn it ? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
againstwind Posted October 12, 2006 at 02:39 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 at 02:39 PM how creative! well, you want to learn 草书. so what does 草书 here refer to? a kind of calligraphy art? or some kind of scratchy writing? the former is an art, which few people can master. (even more difficult for a Chinese learner) the latter is not an art, even everyone can do that in his own style. because you emphasized that you want to write with a pen, not a brush pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxia Posted October 12, 2006 at 02:59 PM Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 at 02:59 PM how creative!well, you want to learn 草书. so what does 草书 here refer to? a kind of calligraphy art? or some kind of scratchy writing? the former is an art, which few people can master. (even more difficult for a Chinese learner) the latter is not an art, even everyone can do that in his own style. because you emphasized that you want to write with a pen, not a brush pen. Well, I want to write good looking characters (not scratchy, but fluid) at a fast speed. Make of it what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peng Posted October 12, 2006 at 03:12 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 at 03:12 PM Well, you gotta write Chinese for long time, then you will naturally write 草書. Simpilifed Chinese happened to be coming from 草書... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxia Posted October 12, 2006 at 05:10 PM Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 at 05:10 PM Well, you gotta write Chinese for long time, then you will naturally write 草書 No way. Very few Chinese people can actually write cao shu the way it's supposed to written. Ocourse, you can write characters for a long time and be able to write them fast and kind of fluent, but this is not cao shu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyang78 Posted October 13, 2006 at 01:45 AM Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 at 01:45 AM Daxia. You are right, very few people know about it. Actually, I have only seen it on TV & books by artist. If you really want to learn it, you need to find a calligraphy artist of "CAOSHU" as teacher. But maybe this downloadable font may help you a little. http://www.coolfont.cn/sort.asp?classid=13&Nclassid=188 When you grasped it, please come back to teach me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted October 13, 2006 at 02:19 AM Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 at 02:19 AM Not sure if it's what you're looking for, but a great book to learn to read/write Chinese handwriting is: "Chinese Cursive Script: An Introduction to Handwriting in Chinese", by Wang Fangyu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlo Posted October 13, 2006 at 04:13 AM Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 at 04:13 AM It's actually not that hard to learn, there are probably a few hundred elements that you have to learn separately and then imitate as many good caoshu samples as you can. You should be already familiar with Chinese and kaishu/xingshu though, as teaching materials are in Chinese and assume you've already covered all that. What you use is not exactly a mixture of 简体 and 繁体, cao forms are a kind of very 'cursive' version of 隶书 , so some of them were chosen as simplified forms (the simplified form 乐, for example, was clearly taken from caoshu). Thanks for the font guyang, I was just looking for something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashiriKata Posted October 13, 2006 at 08:46 AM Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 at 08:46 AM But maybe this downloadable font may help you a little. http://www.coolfont.cn/sort.asp?classid=13&Nclassid=188 When you grasped it' date=' please come back to teach me. [/quote'] So here I'm back! Has anyone installed and used the font? I tried it but in use, there are many characters it just couldn't handle, so the document has to use 2 incongruous fonts. Can anyone recommend something similar but working properly? Something not hollow (空心，as this font) is even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
againstwind Posted October 13, 2006 at 02:38 PM Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 at 02:38 PM i think you may start learning Xingshu （行书）, which is much easier for hand-writing in pen, in order to mastering Caoshu in future. you will find Xingshu gradually transit Caoshu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opalla Posted October 13, 2006 at 03:11 PM Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 at 03:11 PM What about this font: http://www.font.com.cn/downinfo/1647.html and also http://www.font.com.cn/downinfo/1648.html (this one looks like it is written with pen,not brush) both of them are not hollow. but as a Chinese myself (i have learned Chinese calligraphy for over 4 years), i never think you can learn 草书 just by a font. characters are not just the shapes u saw on the screen, the much more important thing u have to learn is how to hadle your brush(pen)--this would usually takes u many years to practise.what's more, 草书 may be the hardest kind to learn.take myself for example,i can write 楷书、行书、隶书，even a little 篆书，but i have never had the confidence to try about 草书，or it's just my personality, i'm not that 狂放(sorry i dont know how to translate it into english). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looyea Posted October 19, 2006 at 02:34 PM Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 at 02:34 PM there five famous chinese font type, 行 草 隶 篆 楷. 篆, is more like picture than a character, and it is an very old font used in 秦朝. 隶 and 楷 are quite formal handwriting for official public works. 行 and 草 are easy to write, you know, the tridation chinese is quite complex to write, so people simplized wrting. And this finally lead to the birth of Simplized Chinese. In the 宋代, some famous chirographer have been using few Simplized Chinese characters to write. During the 1920s to 1940s, the education department of china want to simplize chinese writing, but this effort was fail because of WW II. After PRC was built, in order to develop peoples' culture level, goverment start the simplization project, and the production is the Simplized Chinese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and select your username and password later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.