muyongshi Posted September 24, 2007 at 07:18 AM Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 at 07:18 AM Is there a 汉语同义词词典 or something similar? Or better yet an online one or downloadable for pleco (I know I'm dreaming)? I am tired of having homework that says write the word that is similar in meaning to... and then sitting there racking my brain and when the teacher says the answer it was something I used just 5 minutes earlier 真是踏破铁鞋无觅处... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted September 24, 2007 at 07:53 AM Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 at 07:53 AM See these: http://product.dangdang.com/product.aspx?product_id=9326504 学生同义词反义词辨析词典 http://product.dangdang.com/product.aspx?product_id=9019577 现代汉语同义词词典 http://search.dangdang.com/search.aspx?key=%CD%AC%D2%E5%B4%CA&selbook=0&selmusic=0&selmovie=0&key1=&key2=&key3=&key4=&key5=&catalog= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youpii Posted September 24, 2007 at 12:56 PM Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 at 12:56 PM Yes, you can find many synonyms dictionaries in Chinese bookshops. But I never saw any as a software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlo Posted September 25, 2007 at 03:01 AM Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 at 03:01 AM A Chinese 同义词词典 is not the same thing as an English thesaurus though. The Chinese synonym dictionary will help you choose the most appropriate word among a small set of easily confused entries. A thesaurus on the other hand helps you brainstorm a large number of words and phrases having a similar meaning. Not sure which one you are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted September 25, 2007 at 09:10 AM Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 at 09:10 AM Oooh that is important to know. Good thing I haven't bought yet.... I was thinking thesaurus...any of those laying around?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted September 25, 2007 at 09:26 AM Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 at 09:26 AM The Chinese synonym dictionary will help you choose the most appropriate word among a small set of easily confused entries. A thesaurus on the other hand helps you brainstorm a large number of words and phrases having a similar meaningThey are really the same thing since no two words are exactly like. Knowing the differences between words given a thesaurus entry is important, too. Though a basic thesaurus may not tell you the differences, you can't just take the words and use them interchangeably. It's best to just browse through a few dictionaries at a bookstore and see which one fits your needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted September 25, 2007 at 09:41 AM Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 at 09:41 AM But there in lies my problem.... I don't use the words interchangeably because I was explained the differences but recently one of my teachers is continually asking what is this words synonym and because I already think of them in a specific 范围 all my "synonyms" do not please her because I can't think of a good way to describe it. To me it is what it is.... oh well.... I'll figure something out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted September 25, 2007 at 02:36 PM Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 at 02:36 PM Go look at one of the dictionaries I recommended in a bookstore. If it's good enough for Chinese students, it's probably good enough for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted September 25, 2007 at 11:27 PM Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 at 11:27 PM Thanks gato...I will do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlo Posted September 26, 2007 at 01:42 AM Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 at 01:42 AM They are really the same thing since no two words are exactly like. Maybe I'm not explaining myself clearly. A 同义词词典 may have a few thousand entries (the larger ones) that look like this: 希望 - 渴望 - 巴望 - 指望 - 仰望 and then a page or so explaining the difference in usage and meaning of each of these words (typically 3-7 per set). You won't find many common words here (eg. maybe you won't find 期待), but you will find a detailed discussion of which word should be used in what kind of situation. A thesaurus-type of dictionary, like 同义词词林, 上海辞书出版社, has about 70,000 entries, and under 希望 it lists 100+ words somehow related to this meaning, including 成语 (望子成龙 etc.) and other compound phrases. It doesn't tell you what the differences between these words are: you are supposed to know them already. This works more like an English thesaurus, eg Roget's. Both can be useful for different purposes. Ideally you would want something that has both a large number of entries and notes on differences in usage, but it would weigh a ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted September 26, 2007 at 01:47 AM Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 at 01:47 AM 明白了 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youpii Posted September 26, 2007 at 06:30 PM Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 at 06:30 PM There is a (simple) synonym dictionary available for Lingoes, it's not the best but it's free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibo77 Posted September 26, 2007 at 09:59 PM Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 at 09:59 PM This one is in Chinese: http://www.zdic.net/cd/ Result for 希望: http://www.zdic.net/cd/ci/7/ZdicE5ZdicB8Zdic8C329062.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted September 27, 2007 at 05:24 AM Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 at 05:24 AM youpii thanks it looks nice too bad China is too biased to even think about a mac version though shibo77- good resource it's now bookmarked... Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted October 1, 2007 at 01:41 AM Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 at 01:41 AM http://product.dangdang.com/product....uct_id=9019577 Quick update, the above is the one I wound up getting and it just arrived and it is pretty much what I was looking for. Highly recommend it. I chose it because it had the largest word and group count and had explanations, comparisons, examples and the such. I am still considering getting this one as well for the 反义词 part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted October 1, 2007 at 02:02 AM Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 at 02:02 AM muyongshi, your link to dangdang isn't working. I guess you probably you just copied the one I listed above, but the forum software hides part of the URL, your copied link has "...." in the middle instead of the real address. http://product.dangdang.com/product.aspx?product_id=9019577 现代汉语同义词词典 I would also highly recommend these "语文基础知识" books targeted towards Chinese middle school students. I bought 《高中语文基础知识》. It has section on punctuation, grammar, sentence style, vocabulary, famous authors and books, etc, basically all the basics you need to be a good Chinese middle school student. http://product.dangdang.com/product.aspx?product_id=9193670 锦囊妙解中学生语文系列：基础知识七年级同步 http://product.dangdang.com/product.aspx?product_id=9319766 新阳光基础知识——高中语文基础知识 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted October 1, 2007 at 02:27 AM Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 at 02:27 AM Thanks gato for those recommendations.... I will check them out... I also fixed the link (I'm a dunce) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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