Outofin 45 Report post Posted December 24, 2007 In such a long history, it’s not surprising that some people played similar roles. They are stereotyped in Chinese culture. Here is a list of people I can recall off the top of my head, those whom most believe they were. They are mostly in the right place but not necessarily accurate. The good and wise: 屈原,诸葛亮,周恩来 Heroes: 项羽,关羽,杨业,岳飞,袁崇焕 Dark Heroes: 曹操,毛泽东 Tyrants: 嬴政,杨广 Reformers: 商鞅,晁错,王安石,邓小平 奸臣:秦桧,严嵩,魏忠贤 权臣(excluding those who eventually became rulers):霍光,宇文护,张居正 忠臣:文天祥 Saints: I think there were too many. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skylee 1,912 Report post Posted December 24, 2007 毛澤東……周恩來……百年不論史…… It's a bit too early IMHO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
studentyoung 4 Report post Posted December 25, 2007 毛澤東……周恩來……百年不論史…… It's a bit too early IMHO. I think the very true fact is哪个人后无人说,哪个人前不说人. 百年不论史? As long as people take a neutral, objective and profound thought on these men and their life, it can be something very meaningful. So, why not? Cheers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fireball9261 12 Report post Posted December 26, 2007 I agree with studentyoung. I agree with Outofin's categorization from what I know, but I might be wrong on some of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outofin 45 Report post Posted December 26, 2007 There are definitely misconception and different interpretation on these people. Cao Cao was clearly under the category of bad guys before, but now people more think of him as a genius. He truly was! And folklores put too many moral judgments on history, often simplify it as the fight between good guys and bad guys. Now add a new category: Empress and Queens. 武则天 was the only real Empress in Chinese history. But it’s not a rare case that Queens put her hands on the top power. In many cases when a child Emperor ascended the throne, the person he most trusted and relied on was naturally his mother. They were, 吕后,窦太后,文明太后冯氏,西太后慈禧。 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy_Rising 12 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 While we're on the topic of empresses let's not forget everyone's favorite psychotic first lady 江青. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floatingmoon 10 Report post Posted December 31, 2007 孙中山,黄帝 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chenpv 9 Report post Posted December 31, 2007 Aside from political figures, I will add: 徐霞客,蔡伦,祖冲之,张衡 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floatingmoon 10 Report post Posted January 1, 2008 蔡倫 invent paper. 陸羽 invent tea. 張衡 is a scientist, he invent...many things such as 地動儀. (地動儀 is ancient earthquake detector) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
studentyoung 4 Report post Posted January 28, 2008 陸羽 invent tea. Sorry, but I think tea wasn’t invented by 陆羽. His great contribution to the world is his great book named “Book of Tea 《茶经》”, which is the first book in history that describes: tea trees, tools used to process tea, all processes to handle freshly picked tea leaves, tea sets, how to cook tea and what kind of water you can choose to cook tea, how to drink tea and what kind of ingredients you can add in your tea, historical records on tea, original places of all kinds of tea, and so on. Cheers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floatingmoon 10 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 oh! thankx for the correction Now I am curious, who invent tea? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
studentyoung 4 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 oh! thankx for the correction You're welcome. Now I am curious, who invent tea? Hehe. In fact, tea is leaves on tea trees. Long long ago, people found that it was a kind of perfect beverage after it was processed. Cheers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites