bhchao Posted November 26, 2008 at 04:34 PM Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 at 04:34 PM The man who stabbed six police officers in Shanghai was executed yesterday: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/27/world/asia/27shanghai.html Did the police really beat him during their interrogations of him? The incident happened in July. He was executed 4 months later. Do you think the sentence was too harsh in light of circumstances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted November 27, 2008 at 01:06 AM Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 at 01:06 AM (edited) That page is blocked in China.... sensitive. EDIT: Can open now. Edited December 3, 2008 at 05:16 AM by gato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted November 27, 2008 at 03:43 AM Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 at 03:43 AM It works up here in Beijing - it's maybe more sensitive in Shanghai. It's an odd case. The guy had actually had something very similar happen before - he was visiting Datong or somewhere similar, got picked up by the police and ended up getting a fair chunk of compensation for whatever happened. The authorities have also been singularly non-transparent in their handling of the case. And then you have the Internet declaring a crazed mass-murder a folk hero. I think the fairest thing might have been to declare both Yang and the Chinese justice system guilty, but that was never all that likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhchao Posted December 2, 2008 at 03:53 AM Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 at 03:53 AM Another high profile case where transparency and due process is questionable: http://www.todayonline.com/articles/290195.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted December 2, 2008 at 03:58 AM Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 at 03:58 AM The article you've requested is not available. Pretty opaque . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhchao Posted December 2, 2008 at 04:03 AM Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 at 04:03 AM Sorry I fixed the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCinChina Posted January 7, 2009 at 02:05 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 at 02:05 AM If he had stabbed 6 officers to death as the report indicated, then the punishment is just. Even if he was beaten by the police, that doesn't give him the right to kill 6 police officers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted January 7, 2009 at 02:13 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 at 02:13 AM Who's denying that, bar the 'folk hero' lot on the Internet - he was always going to get the harshest punishment on the books, and in China that's death (oh, and removal of your political rights into the bargain). The issues are around the way the case was handled - why wasn't his father able to see him, where did his mother disappear to, what actually happened while he was under arrest, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCinChina Posted January 7, 2009 at 03:17 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 at 03:17 AM In all honesty he probably was beaten and stripped of all his basic rights due to what he did. Was this fair from a Western point of view? No, but this is what happens in China when you do these types of things. The system needs a change, but damned is he who tries to bring down the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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