ala Posted July 11, 2004 at 09:29 PM Report Share Posted July 11, 2004 at 09:29 PM ahh... the pride! why don't shanghainese worry about making shanghai a modern progessive city like nyc instead of the burden of history? The goal is to make Shanghai both progressive and historically, culturally relevant. NYC, London, Paris are great because they can achieve both. BTW, the term "modern progressive city" is a catch-phrase that every village, town, and city in China is trying to achieve (often from state coffers) without a broader and more realistic perspective, like a gdf rat race. Slogan economics doesn't work anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disenchant Posted July 12, 2004 at 03:56 PM Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 at 03:56 PM This is very true. But I would say the stories are just as interesting. 'Interesting' often connoting grotesque and disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amperel Posted July 12, 2004 at 06:11 PM Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 at 06:11 PM paris and london are much more older than nyc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ala Posted July 12, 2004 at 09:36 PM Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 at 09:36 PM ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disenchant Posted July 13, 2004 at 07:57 AM Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 at 07:57 AM It wasn't *that* long ago that Shanghai was just one big whorehouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSkillet Posted July 13, 2004 at 02:56 PM Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 at 02:56 PM It wasn't *that* long ago that Shanghai was just one big whorehouse Last week really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ala Posted July 13, 2004 at 08:06 PM Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 at 08:06 PM Nah, it's going to be a bigger one, just you watch. Can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunyata Posted July 13, 2004 at 09:38 PM Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 at 09:38 PM so the conclusion is? go to beijing for the history and go to shanghai for the whores? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yau Posted July 14, 2004 at 04:26 PM Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 at 04:26 PM really doubt if these cities in china REALLY make a BIG difference, as claimed above? The mechanism behind all these are just the same, so are the free publication, law protection and the behavior. Well, subtle difference is just subtle enough to influence my choice on them. I've been to beijing, hainan, guangzhou, shengzhen, hanzhou, kunming, Huhehaode (internal mongol) and some other big cities. I can feel some difference but it's not just impressive. I believe the difference should be counted by the system. It's taiwan, macao, hong kong and rural mainland china and urban china. (possibly included Diao Yu Tai, Nansha too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ala Posted July 14, 2004 at 05:07 PM Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 at 05:07 PM I really doubt if these cities in china REALLY make a BIG difference, as claimed above? The mechanism behind all these are just the same, so are the free publication, law protection and the behavior. I've been to beijing, hainan, guangzhou, shengzhen, hanzhou, kunming, Huhehaode (internal mongol) and some other big cities. I can feel some difference but it's not just impressive. Well Shanghai is pretty right-wing and the municipal government has quite a bit of leverage (as seen in the SARS episode and several police chases into Beijing). So I would say behavior of the local population and government of various cities are different. Certainly not on the level of Hong Kong and Taiwan, but not many nations in the world can claim that large of a gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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