Nina Posted July 21, 2004 at 07:33 PM Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 at 07:33 PM Hi all- Does anyone know of a web site or database where you could look up a Traditional character, then see the strokes written in the proper order? Thanks- Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benotnobody Posted July 22, 2004 at 01:29 PM Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 at 01:29 PM You should check out this page by Tianwei Xie. It has animated GIFs illustrating the stroke order of a fairly extensive range of hanzi, both simplified and traditional.[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filipu Posted July 22, 2004 at 01:36 PM Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 at 01:36 PM Try: http://www.usc.edu/dept/ealc/chinese/newweb/character_page.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nina Posted July 23, 2004 at 01:30 AM Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 at 01:30 AM Thanks! benotnobody- I couldn't get to the link you posted. This URL came up, but a window told me I couldn't access it. Is it correct? http://http//www.csulb.edu/~txie/azi/page1.htm Filipu- That's a great link, and the strokes are so slooooow that you can really follow them. I'm wondering - does anyone write caligraphy any more? It seems that most the characters I see in print are more like stick figures, like the Seal characters. -Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted July 23, 2004 at 01:48 AM Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 at 01:48 AM Here's the correct URL: http://www.csulb.edu/~txie/azi/page1.htm I'm wondering - does anyone write caligraphy any more? It seems that most the characters I see in print are more like stick figures, like the Seal characters. Seal characters (篆書 - zhuan shu) are completely different from the print characters (細明體 - xi ming ti - "small Ming type"). Seal characters originated around the 9th century BC and were standardized during the Qin Dynasty (3rd century BC). Writing Seal Script is itself a whole different kind of calligraphy. The standard calligraphy characters that you normally see (and are featured in the links above) are 楷書 - kai shu. They originated near the end of the Han dynasty (around the 1st century AD) when people started using brushes to write characters. They've been mostly unchanged for the past 2000 years. The print characters look the way they do because of the way they needed to be etched for printing presses (so that's why they have a very stick-like and angular look). They're still based on the kai shu characters though. They're called "Ming" type because they were finalized during the Ming dynasty (14th - 17th century AD). Just about every Chinese newspaper today uses this font -- I guess it's analogous to the Times New Roman font for the Western alphabets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geek_frappa Posted July 30, 2004 at 05:23 PM Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 at 05:23 PM http://chinese.primezero.com/notebook/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted July 31, 2004 at 06:55 AM Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 at 06:55 AM If you don´t know by now... check also the software discussed in: http://www.chinese-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=149&highlight=Wenlin or at the company´s website http://www.wenlin.com you might want to download their "evaluation version". One of the many marvellous features of this software is showing the stroke order of many , even obscure (simplified and traditional ) characters. Ole have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geek_frappa Posted July 31, 2004 at 05:12 PM Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 at 05:12 PM wow. that's a wonderful resource. well, even though this notebook is mostly useless compared to wenline, i will keep posting until it is no longer requested... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nina Posted August 5, 2004 at 01:08 AM Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 at 01:08 AM Thanks, Ole. I have Wenlin, and it's wonderful! Yes, they show so many strokes. My problem was that I created files on Wenlin including the strokes they provided, but when I tried to open the files in AppleWorks so I could change the size and fonts of some of the characters and words, AppleWorks didn't recognize the code used for the strokes. So, I was hoping I could find an online site that would show them the same way that Wenlin did so I could cut and paste them into my documents. I've decided to just print the pages directly from Wenlin then write in the characters on the printed pages in the size I want. I have Wenlin 2.6 and downloaded the demo for 3.0, which allows me better fonts when I open my files in the 3.0 demo. Which version of Wenlin do you have? Thanks- Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nina Posted August 5, 2004 at 01:10 AM Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 at 01:10 AM Geek- I went to your notebook, but I couldn't figure out how to use it. Any suggestions for someone who doesn't read Chinese very well? Thanks- Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geek_frappa Posted August 5, 2004 at 03:09 AM Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 at 03:09 AM the numbers shows where the pen strokes start ... follow the numbers in sequence. this site helps you see the nature of the strokes ... http://www.ocrat.com/chargif/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiuXiaoming Posted January 17, 2005 at 11:21 PM Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 at 11:21 PM I am looking for a database of the stroke order codes for chinese characters. I need a database or at least a text file of characters with their corresponding stroke codes. I don't need a program that illustrates writing the strokes like Wenlin--just the characters and numbers that describe the strokes. ECode by EON Limited is good for inputting characters based on stroke order but I would like to have a code system that I can add to a database I am constructing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonglan Posted January 18, 2005 at 11:52 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 at 11:52 AM the strokes written in the proper order? If you mean the way they're taught in schools in Taiwan, China, and Singapore, that stroke order is everywhere you look. If you mean the calligraphic stroke order, the way kaishu has always been written until a few decades go (though it is still written in calligraphy class such), then this is wrong http://www.csulb.edu/~txie/azi/page1.htm this is wrong http://www.usc.edu/dept/ealc/chinese/newweb/character_page.html this is wrong http://www.ocrat.com/chargif/ The other URLs so far listed on this thread either don't seem to have any information on stroke order or are items for sale and so I can't see what they have. EVERY book for foreigners to learn Chinese charcters that I have ever seen has the stroke order wrong, though Rita Choy's books do get some of them right. But it's the way the overwhelming majority of Taiwanese, Chinese, and Singaporeans write. Hong Kongers, what about you? Japanese write their characters the old-fashioned way: correctly, with a couple of exceptions. I am aware of only two characters that are in dispute for kaishu (必 and 無), though those two do recur in other characters. Otherwise, the books and calligraphy teachers agree. I've posted elsewhere on CF about this and given some examples. I will dig around for it and then edit this post adding the URL for that. EDIT: Here's the URL I promised. http://chinese-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=21086&highlight=#21086 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_p0et Posted January 27, 2005 at 03:19 PM Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 at 03:19 PM I've tried the links you guys suggested so far, but there's quite a few characters I can't find on http://www.csulb.edu/~txie/azi/page1.htm as well as http://www.usc.edu/dept/ealc/chinese/newweb/character_page.html. On http://www.ocrat.com/chargif/ almost every character I do a search for comes up with broken links. For now I'm mainly trying to learn different foods and body parts. Any other links or free programs for stroke orders would be great! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted January 27, 2005 at 08:21 PM Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 at 08:21 PM I found a link to an online book that was entirely scanned in: http://www.edu.tw/EDU_WEB/EDU_MGT/MANDR/EDU6300001/allbook/bishuen/c8.htm?open 《常用國字標準字體筆順手冊》 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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