flashback Posted February 12, 2012 at 03:41 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 at 03:41 PM hello evreybody, I don't know if it's chinese or Japanese, but i really hope that somebody could give me a translation of this, or some clues about this : http://img844.images.../caracteres.jpg It's very old cabinet, dated 1900 i think. Here a global picture : http://img718.images...809/meubleb.jpg I always wanted to know the meaning of this old engraving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinewind Posted February 13, 2012 at 07:02 AM Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 at 07:02 AM *Should be read from top to bottom and right to left (typical traditional format): 欲把西湖比西子，淡妆浓抹总相宜。 ----------甲寅春月子固作 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Translation： The West Lake looks like the fair lady at her best. Whether she is richly adorned or plainly dressed. ----- By Zigu in the Spring of Jiayin Year --------------------- Notes: 西湖/West Lake: a famous lake located in Hangzhou, a eastern China city. 子固/Zigu: a special name for Zeng Gong (famous writer of Song Dynasty) 甲寅/Jia Yin Year: name of a year using “干支/Gan Zhi” year counting method which includes 60 different year types. Jia Yin is the first year on Gan Zhi list. If you want to go deep， Google干支纪年 to get the details. ---------------------------- More: these are the last two sentences from a famous poem written by Su Shi, a great poet. The whole poem goes like this: 水光潋滟晴方好，山色空蒙雨亦奇。欲把西湖比西子，淡妆浓抹总相宜。 The brimming waves delight the eye on sunny days. The dimming hills give a rare view in rainy haze. The West Lake looks like the fair lady at her best. Whether she is richly adorned or plainly dressed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashback Posted February 13, 2012 at 07:20 AM Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 at 07:20 AM THANKS ! it's awesome !!! thank you very much ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashback Posted February 13, 2012 at 09:15 AM Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 at 09:15 AM shinewind, Could you please translate two more texts ? This time, it's on the sides of the cabinet : 1. on the left side : http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6127/sidel.jpg 2. on the right side : http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3985/siderng.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted February 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM Are you sure it is dated from 1900? The script and the words seem to suggest that it is not。 PS - But I don't know much about these things. Will leave the translation to shinewind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashback Posted February 13, 2012 at 07:20 PM Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 at 07:20 PM According to the person who sold it to my familly, yes is dated from 1900. But with the translation of shinewood, we can think that it's older. Maybe if shinewood can translate the two last texts, we will have more detail about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbradfor Posted February 13, 2012 at 08:35 PM Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 at 08:35 PM According to the person who sold it to my familly !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted February 13, 2012 at 09:19 PM Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 at 09:19 PM But with the translation of shinewood, we can think that it's older. Why is that? If I said to you that this post of mine was written in 1742 would that make it true? Especially considering there might be other overwhelming evidence to suggest that actually it was written today. (I don't know whether or not the cabinet is older, I'm just saying don't think it's old just because it has an 'old' date mentioned on it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashback Posted February 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM Imron, i carefully read your message, and yes you're right. when I said that, i never imagined that it's can be dated from 1000. But i'm 80 % sure that it's dated from 1900, because the man who told this, it was his job to sell old things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEye Posted February 14, 2012 at 08:59 AM Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 at 08:59 AM But with the translation of shinewood, we can think that it's older. What about his translation makes you think it's older? And how can you date it by what's written on it? If I made a cabinet and painted on a few lines of poetry by William Blake, would you automatically assume the cabinet was old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted February 14, 2012 at 10:13 AM Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 at 10:13 AM Sorry to have asked the question. Actually it does not matter how old the cabinet is. It looks quite nice, and the important thing is that the user/buyer likes it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbradfor Posted February 14, 2012 at 02:57 PM Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 at 02:57 PM It's also possible the cabinet is older than the writing. But I agree with skylee: if you like it, who cares how old it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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