bhchao Posted May 15, 2005 at 07:32 AM Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 at 07:32 AM Anyone watched the television series 漢武大帝? I have yet to watch this series, and have heard some redeeming comments on Han Wudi. The land mass of the Han Empire during his reign equalled (or even surpassed) that of the Roman Empire. On the positive side, Wudi was responsible for helping form the Silk Road, ending the appeasement policies towards the Xiongnu that were started under his predecessors, and establishing Confucianism as the official state doctrine that formed the basis of the civil service exams. His expansionist policies pushed the Xiongnu far back into the Mongolian steppes (with the aid of the young generals 霍去病 and 衛青), and impacted early Korean civilization with the cultural influences brought via the four Han commanderies in Korea. However this was the emperor who castrated Sima Qian, was ruthless towards dissent and sometimes executed people who disagreed with him, as well as exterminating 李陵's mother, wife, and son after the general defected to the Xiongnu. Towards the end of his 54-year reign, Wudi's expansionist policies drained the imperial coffer close to bankruptcy and the people began to suffer. Wudi realized this and made the unprecedented move of repenting for his past misdeeds and ruthless behavior. Based on the television series, the aging emperor publicly made the 輪台罪己詔 to repent for the things he has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wushijiao Posted May 15, 2005 at 12:35 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 at 12:35 PM Have you seen it? If so, aside from whether or not it is accurate, is it a good drama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted May 16, 2005 at 01:21 AM Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 at 01:21 AM I have heard good things about this drama. I was going to buy the DVD yesterday (since am now in Shanghai), but didn't do it as it is kind of expensive (about RMB 290 for two parts, a long series obviously). Will make up my mind today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted May 16, 2005 at 05:25 AM Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 at 05:25 AM I watched two episodes and stopped. I thought the characters were too 豪迈 for Han Dynasty. I felt like they were 元清 characters dressed in 汉装。 Personally, I prefer more refinement and less 气魄 for 汉 and 唐 dramas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhchao Posted May 19, 2005 at 07:07 AM Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 at 07:07 AM I have finished watching the first five episodes of 漢武大帝. It looks like the producers of the series try to make it as historically accurate as possible. As of the end of episode 5, the series is focused on Han Jingdi (Wudi's father), and his attempts to consolidate the Han government's central authority over local kingdoms. Wudi is still a little kid at this point. In one episode, a concubine teaches a court maid how to present herself in a regal manner because the maid is being sent as a Han princess to the Xiongnu. At that time Han princesses were sent to the Xiongnu as appeasement gifts in return for stopping raids on Han China. While the maid was being taught etiquette, the 6-year old Wudi asks "Why do we have to send princesses to the Xiongnu as gifts"? This question provides a glimpse of his future mindset as emperor, since he later ends these appeasement policies that basically kiss Xiongnu arse. So far the series have been quite boring because it's all Han Jingdi, and Wudi hasn't reached maturity yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted August 24, 2005 at 02:40 AM Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 at 02:40 AM I picked up this series again and finished 15 episodes now, I am liking it this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted August 30, 2005 at 11:43 PM Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 at 11:43 PM I am on episode 60 now, I'd say it's a great drama. I highly recommend it. Have you guys finished the whole thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhchao Posted August 31, 2005 at 03:57 AM Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 at 03:57 AM have not had time to watch past episode 5. been quite busy recently. one of these days I will pick up where I left off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted August 31, 2005 at 10:06 AM Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 at 10:06 AM I finished all 64 episodes, finally! I think it's a 经典, a sophisticated drama, touching and inspiring. The first few episodes might seem boring, but don't let the myriad of characters stop you, the characters and their stories will soon get very complicated and intriguing. The sophistication involved in the characters' power struggles makes 大长今 and 金枝玉孽 seem like child's play. I regret saying what I've said in May, pick up this series today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted August 31, 2005 at 01:18 PM Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 at 01:18 PM How is it compared to 走向共和? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted August 31, 2005 at 05:50 PM Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 at 05:50 PM How is it compared to 走向共和? They are similar in some ways, 汉武帝 is really a more talented (and luckier) version of 光绪帝, I can't believe 2000 years later it was the same kind of 后宫干政 and 权利斗争 that killed imperial China. I liked 走向共和 very much but I don't think it's fair for me to compare those two now, since my memory of 汉武大帝 is more fresh, I would say 汉有过之而无不及。There are many many more smart people in 《汉》than in 《走》 and that made 《汉》's power struggles and wars much more interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song You Shen Posted August 31, 2005 at 05:57 PM Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 at 05:57 PM Can it be found with english subtitles? Youshen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted September 1, 2005 at 02:37 AM Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 at 02:37 AM Can it be found with english subtitles? I tried searching, didn't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylee Posted March 26, 2006 at 04:35 AM Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 at 04:35 AM As my pc at home has broken down, I now spend my spare time watching this series. I think I have finished like 27 episodes. IMO it is quite boring, and definitely not as engaging as 雍正王朝 or 走向共和. And I find the words used in the script too modern. So far I don't think I like it very much. Well maybe it is better in the later episodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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