Friday Posted November 23, 2015 at 02:56 AM Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 at 02:56 AM Many strangers seek me out to practice English. This is really getting annoying, as they tend to start out very directly, almost “You will now speak English with me”, ignoring the fact that I'm enjoying a quiet read on a park bench, etc. and coming at me with many questions, most of which aren't suitable for conversation with a stranger. Some offer to help me practice Chinese, but don't bother to try to determine my level. Some have figured out my routine and find me regularly. Finding a new park or changing my route is rather troublesome. Walking away doesn't work, as they can easily follow. I've tried various ways to politely say “no”. Gestures like pointing to my book aren't noticed. I know Chinese tend to use indirect language to politely refuse someone, but the ways I tried didn't work. Has anyone found some words to politely escape this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
889 Posted November 23, 2015 at 05:32 AM Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 at 05:32 AM Waving your hands and uttering a few words of French or German or Russian (especially Russian) should work. Seriously, if you can avoid letting casual encounters in China know you speak English the better your time will be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_CH Posted November 23, 2015 at 06:18 AM Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 at 06:18 AM It's best to be rude to rude people. Do not engage, refuse to speak a single word of English, keep saying ting bu dong and so forth... as long as you acknowledge that you understand what they're saying in English and respond they won't give up. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dementior Posted November 23, 2015 at 10:06 AM Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 at 10:06 AM Ive never had this problem before (not consistently at least). where do you live? the people who approach you are fluent in English? I mean how long do these conversations last? How good is your Chinese? Maybe it is time to stop being that polite. But in order to get understood I suggest you talk with them in Chinese and I think you do not need any indirect approach in this case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted November 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM How to politely escape from “English practice”? The problem with your question is the adverb. Remove "politely" from the question, and it becomes easy. Yesterday I was in a situation in which an unwelcome stranger tried to chew my ear off. It was a very inopportune time and I first tried several polite ways to end it. They didn't work. I finally said, "不好意思,我不要跟你聊天。" That's all there was to it. 不好意思 softens the refusal a little bit, but it still was not terribly polite on my part. Chinese are notorious for invading personal space if you allow it. You don't need to be too delicate about this issue. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymoose Posted November 23, 2015 at 11:30 AM Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 at 11:30 AM Look at your watch and then say, 不好意思,有点事, and walk off. Might be obvious, but still less rude than directly saying anything. Otherwise, if you can, just speak in Chinese. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChTTay Posted November 23, 2015 at 01:26 PM Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 at 01:26 PM If doing that isn't polite enough for you just lie and tell them in Chinese that you made a "language pledge" at your Chinese school where you're only allowed to speak Chinese for "x" period of time. Apologise and say you aren't willing to break it. Then ask them if you can speak in Chinese together instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokarface Posted November 23, 2015 at 01:40 PM Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 at 01:40 PM Haha! This sounds like a funny situation. Do you usually study at a University's park? It seems you are getting a high concentration of people wanting to study. This seems like very unusual behavior (but I've never been to China, so that might be common) Friday, are you a beautiful girl or a handsome stud? I can't tell from your online nickname, but being either one might contribute to why you are getting so much attention since men/women might be actually flirting with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingfunny Posted November 23, 2015 at 01:41 PM Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 at 01:41 PM Some have figured out my routine and find me regularly That is a little bit messed up. Honestly, I think someone who is confident enough to walk up to a complete stranger and engage them in conversation in their second language is probably the kind of person that can handle someone turning around and walking away mid-conversation. I think you might be worried about upsetting people, or seeming like a jerk, and as you can see from the responses here the sooner you over come that problem the better. You are being unfairly engaged in conversation and you have the right to refuse. It sucks that they bother you when you're having a nice sit down and reading a book. After a few questions I'd probably say 不好意思,我在看书 and then if they continued to engage me I'd start getting pretty blunt. Ultimately though, you'll probably have to move somewhere else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_CH Posted November 24, 2015 at 01:28 AM Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 at 01:28 AM I think it helps to remind yourself that they wouldn't do that to a fellow Chinese, quite simply because it's rude in their culture as well. But because you're an outsider they feel they can get away with it. Nothing lost in translation, they quite simply don't care about your subtle signals, so act accordingly. In my opinion we should clearly differentiate between cultural differences (which exist of course) and rude behavior. I have many cultured and polite Chinese friends who refuse to accept bad manners, and that's not because they're westernized, but simply because they set standards for themselves and their family, perfectly in accordance with traditional Chinese culture and teaching. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
889 Posted November 24, 2015 at 01:39 AM Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 at 01:39 AM Yes, if you had a Chinese friend with you, then this -- and those other unpleasant encounters -- would not happen. Further, if you stay in China longer, you'll find that age also cures this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted November 24, 2015 at 01:50 AM Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 at 01:50 AM #10 -- @Simon I think it helps to remind yourself that they wouldn't do that to a fellow Chinese, quite simply because it's rude in their culture as well. But because you're an outsider they feel they can get away with it. Nothing lost in translation, they quite simply don't care about your subtle signals, so act accordingly. Agree with @Simon_CH. Well said. To the Original Poster: You are going to need to become a little more thick-skinned about this issue, especially if you live in a part of a major city where locals expect to find English-speaking foreigners. I live in Kunming, in an older part of the city, and it very rarely happens to me. Plus, when it does, I usually don't really mind. But as a general tip, in order to live here in harmony with the local people, it helps a lot if you can clearly define what you want and don't want, and then clearly express it. Don't expect subtle hints and beating about the bush to work. #9 -- @Somethingfunny -- I think you might be worried about upsetting people, or seeming like a jerk, and as you can see from the responses here the sooner you over come that problem the better. You are being unfairly engaged in conversation and you have the right to refuse. OP -- You are getting lots of golden advice here from people who know how to get along in China. Hope you take it to heart. It will make your time here much more pleasant. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseneb Posted November 24, 2015 at 11:44 AM Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 at 11:44 AM You could also say something along the lines of " Oh! You want to practice English! I charge XXX ( however much you like) for English conversation practice." And hold out your hand meaningfully until they pay up or leave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post studychinese Posted November 24, 2015 at 01:55 PM Popular Post Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 at 01:55 PM My friend has an excellent strategy for this. He has a business card and introduces himself as an "English tutor" charging an excessively high price. You should see them run! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flickserve Posted November 25, 2015 at 03:17 AM Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 at 03:17 AM My friend has an excellent strategy for this. He has a business card and introduces himself as an "English tutor" charging an excessively high price. You should see them run! That's a great one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Two Times Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:05 PM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:05 PM Indeed. Lots of great advice here. The English vultures! You can see them circling around and then swoop. When I was a younger buck, I used to get a bit of this in the good ole days of Chengdu (2000-2003). I would also be direct, rude, and never speak English: 听不懂!听不懂!啊?什么?!?什么?!?什么?!? They will keep speaking English because they see you're a Westerner “so you MUST speak English”. Don't give them any English. Finally... 我是冰岛人。我说冰岛语。 I ended up turning the tables on the English vultures and had a lot of fun messing with them like that. Huzzah! Warm regards, Chris Two Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Two Times Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:07 PM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:07 PM Agreed with the above though. As abcdefg states, you need to remove the "politely" from the title and have thicker skin. To hell with being polite when dealing with the English vultures! Warm regards, Chris Two Times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Two Times Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:30 PM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:30 PM Oh for crying out loud, nothing I wrote deserved a minus one downvote. It's the absolute truth. Deal politely with English vultures and see where that gets you. Sheesh. Oh! Looks like I need to follow my own advice and get some thicker skin. Haha! Haha! Maybe a Chinese English vulture is lurking here and downvoted me. Ha! A good evening to all. Warm regards, Chris Two Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingfunny Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM I once told a guy I was German and couldn't speak English. He then asked me to teach him some German. When I refused he said a line of German and asked me if his pronunciation was right or not. Then I said "look over there!" and ran away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Two Times Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:36 PM Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 at 12:36 PM somethingfunny, that is indeed funny. Yeah, my crew used to say we speak German, French, Spanish, but then would run into people who spoke these languages, hence my 我是冰岛人 line. Needless to say, we never ran into anyone who knew any Icelandic. We were also telling people we spoke the 荷兰语。 Warm regards, Chris Two Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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