Verbs in front of 比 position?

[SaeKasa]

While preparing for my exam tomorrow I encountered these two sentences:

 

他写汉字比我快一点儿。

 

and

 

我汉语说得比他好多了。

 

How come 写 comes before 汉字 but 说 is placed after 汉语?

[edelweis]

my 2 cents:

 

You could rewrite 他写汉字比我快一点儿 sentence as 他写汉字写得比我快一点儿 in order to explicitly combine an object with 得+complement indicating manner.

Or, you could rewrite it as 他汉字写得比我快一点儿 but in this instance the subject of 写 is no longer 他, the subject is 汉字 (passive voice is implied), and 他 is the topic/theme of the sentence while 汉字写得比我快一点儿 is what is being said about the topic.

 

Similarly in "我汉语说得比他好多了",  我 is the topic, and 汉语 is the subject of the comment (what is being said about 我).

You could rewrite this as 我说汉语说得比他好多了 or 我说汉语比他好多了 in order to have 我 as the subject.

 

Why one form or another is used in a particular case, I don't know, it might be a matter of sounding native or not...

 

[ibag]

I am chinese, we rarely write 说得, that's right but kinda formal. 

you can say 我说的汉语... 我汉语说的... , that's all right, easy, idiomatic and frequently be used.

[ibag]

我说汉语说得比他好多了 is not sounding native but kinda weird. lt is verbose for two "说"

you can say 我汉语说得比他好多了, that's very good！