bjgodefr Posted January 30, 2004 at 05:22 PM Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 at 05:22 PM Hi I’m looking for a good way to learn simplified Chinese characters. The book that’s on roddy’s site ('Easy Way to Learn Chinese Characters') looks quite good. But I’m also looking for something like Mc Naughton’s ‘Reading and Writing Chinese: A Guide to the Chinese Writing System’. The author placed in this book a great emphasis on the building up of a character from its parts. So characters that are geometrically simplest are first presented, and complex characters are built-up from the simpler parts already presented. Unfortunately this book only covers traditional characters. Could anyone introduce me to similar books with simplified characters? Advice on other methods/books for learning characters is also appreciated! Thanks, Bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ciwei Posted January 30, 2004 at 06:17 PM Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 at 06:17 PM Hello Bart You are probably aware of this but just in case you are not, McNaughton's "Reading and Writing" Chinese does include simplified characters. However the emphasis is still on traditional characters. All the examples under each new characters are in traditional form only. Better news. According to Amazon, a simplified character edition of this book is due out in May 2004. Details from amazon.com are: Reading & Writing Chinese Simplified Character Edition, by William McNaughton, Li Ying (Paperback - May 2004) Hope this helps ciwei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjgodefr Posted January 30, 2004 at 06:36 PM Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 at 06:36 PM thanks for the reply. i know that there is a simplified version in the making, but i mailed to the publisher and they've told me that this version is due for 2005, so that's kinda late for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alfredo Posted January 31, 2004 at 01:23 PM Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 at 01:23 PM Check out "WHAT'S IN A CHINESE CHARACTER" it explains the origins of 369 characters, mostly radical based(you know, at the end of the book you'll know most of the radicals), their stoke order. And has drawings to clarify the lot. Most importantly: it's easy to read, as there's isn't much. I've found it useful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjgodefr Posted February 4, 2004 at 01:19 PM Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 at 01:19 PM well here is kind of a reply to my own post: i've just bought a book called '500 basic chinese characters' published by sinolingua. I think it's quite good, it orders the (simplified) characters in such a way so that new characters contain parts of ones you've learned previously. It also gives you the stroke order, it shows how the character appears in various script styles, gives tips on usage, radical, frequently-used words or phrases and (last but definitely not least) it gives good tips on how to memorise the characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wushijiao Posted February 19, 2004 at 07:10 AM Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 at 07:10 AM I also like "Cracking the Chinese Puzzles" by TK Ann, if you can find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanuk88 Posted February 19, 2004 at 11:10 AM Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 at 11:10 AM You can order it on amazon.co.uk and it takes about 4-5 weeks! I just ordered it! In amazon.com it says its not realesed!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 19, 2004 at 07:35 PM Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 at 07:35 PM Bjgodefr, that sounds like a good book. I'll have to look for a copy for myself. Here is what I have and it is VERY useful. It is called What Character is That? An Easy Access Dictionary of 5,000 Chinese Characters by Go Ping-Gam. The reviews for the book are all terrific (which is why I bought it) and the method for looking up characters is much quicker than traditional stroke counting. I also use it as a reference guide for making my own flashcards. Link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0962311359/qid=1077218837/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-7006222-9169463?v=glance&s=books Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 22, 2004 at 03:48 AM Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 at 03:48 AM Nathanuk, can you let me know when/if you get this book? I wanted to order it, but the publishers told me it would likely not be released this year. I would be willing to buy it at the UK price and have it shipped overseas if I could get it 6+ months earlier... Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channamasala Posted February 23, 2004 at 03:30 AM Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 at 03:30 AM "Reading and Writing Chinese Characters" gives you the simplified in a corner of the entry, but doesn't show you how to write it as it does with the traditional. So they are there, but not emphasized. "500 Basic Chinese Characters" (available in the Wangfujing Foreign Languages Bookstore) is sort of a rip off of "Easy Way to Learn..." but teaches more characters. My old roommate had a great book, I think it was just called "Learning Chinese Script" and taught you the philosophy behind it and a few characters to boot. But if you're far enough in to learning Chinese to ask these questions you probably already know most of what that book can teach you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrs. Max Powers Posted February 28, 2004 at 04:41 PM Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 at 04:41 PM i used 'the most common chinese radicals' by zhang pengpeng. its the middle book in a series of three, first starting with spoken chinese, then this book to learn a few radicals and stroke order, and the third book is for reading. i have a number of textbooks and like this series as a whole the best, but if your not interested in the series, '500 basic chinese characters' is also good, but you should know basic stroke order before you start it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lauragray Posted March 1, 2004 at 10:19 PM Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 at 10:19 PM Jamie, The book looks very useful. One question: are the characters simplified or traditional? If it gives both, which one is used to look up a character? I.e., do you use the stroke count for the simplified character or the traditional one? Thanks, Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrs. Max Powers Posted March 2, 2004 at 03:34 AM Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 at 03:34 AM sorry, but which book(s) do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lauragray Posted March 2, 2004 at 03:55 AM Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 at 03:55 AM The book Jamie mentioned was, "What Character is That?". Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted March 12, 2004 at 02:39 AM Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 at 02:39 AM Hi Laura. Sorry but I didn't see this post until just now! The book has both Traditional and Simplified characters (the simplified characters are to the left of the traditional) so it's great for anybody. Edit: The additional stroke count would be for the traditional character, but I've found that many simplified characters have the same additional stroke count as the traditional, and the characters are quite easy to look up. At most you might have to scan an additional page to find the character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunyata Posted March 13, 2004 at 11:38 PM Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 at 11:38 PM I also like "Cracking the Chinese Puzzles" by TK Ann, if you can find it. dood, that book has like 5 or more volumes... it does look good though - found it in our library... how good was your chinese when you started using this book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learner Posted March 20, 2004 at 02:12 AM Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 at 02:12 AM Get the "Cheng & Tsui Chinese Character Dictionary", by Wang Huidi. It is an excellent book, similar to the McNaughton book, but in simplified characters. Also, it gives the complete stroke order information for 2000 characters, rather than 1062 as in the McNaughton book (which has 2000 characters, but only 1062 with full stroke order information). You can buy this book online. The link below should take you directly to the book's page in the catalogue. If not, go to the Cheng & Tsui site (www.cheng-tsui.com) and search for it. The price is $19.95 U.S., which is about the same as the McNaughton book. http://www.cheng-tsui.com/sb_catalog-csm.asp?grp=PC++&item=++++++++0887273149 Best wishes, Learner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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