Ferno Posted January 13, 2006 at 11:29 PM Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 at 11:29 PM Ferno' date=' compare the following (a) and (B) & their translations below:(a) jie1 xialai yi1 ge, hai2 shi4 yi1 ge hen3 you3yong4 de, jie2gou4 The next structure, which is also a very useful one, (B) jie1 xialai yi1 ge ye3 shi4 yi1 ge hen3 you3yong4 de jie2gou4 The next one is also a very useful structure Please note: Your translation (=understanding) might have misled you into thinking ye3 can be used in the sentence quoted. Of couse, it can be, provided that the 2 commas are not there (with consequential change of meaning, as in my (B) sentence). Note also that (a) is only a phrase, not yet a sentence.[/quote'] :-? so if you say the phrase "which is also a very useful one", it would be gramatically incorrect to use "ye3" for "also"? I am really confused. Does this have something to do with the 是 verb? Or the measure word? Something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashiriKata Posted January 14, 2006 at 12:22 AM Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 at 12:22 AM I am really confused.Yes, I think you are! Otherwise, you should have seen clearly that "ye3" is used in expample (B), and not (a). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferno Posted January 14, 2006 at 02:34 AM Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 at 02:34 AM I meant "gramatically INcorrect", sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashiriKata Posted January 14, 2006 at 08:02 AM Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 at 08:02 AM I wouldn't use the word "grammatically incorrect" ("pragmatically inappropriate", perhaps?) but in the examples, the 还 and 也 are not interchangeable: 接下来一个, 还是一个很有用的, 结构... 接下来一个也是一个很有用的结构. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferno Posted January 16, 2006 at 09:27 AM Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 at 09:27 AM okay thank you... let's see if we can put some closure to this... can you tell me the grammatical rule or something that explains WHY 还是 and 也是 are not interchangable in those two sentances? So I will be able to apply it in different contexts? Maybe "还是" is used when inserting a thought into a sentance (like the one with the commas) and 也是 is used as part of a regular, uninterrupted phrase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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