Loriquero Posted July 8, 2009 at 07:59 AM Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 at 07:59 AM That tracert command always shows like "timed out" even with chinese not-blocked websites... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_moat Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:11 PM Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:11 PM Chinese-forums.com is also currently blocked. Have to use TOR to use it now, so not Roddy's server problems. Also, don't use Witopia. Can't be bothered going into reasons, just use any SSH VPN service, with an final destination hop in a country with loose privacy laws. Traceroute still uses ICMP ping, most good websites block ping these days to limit the effect of DDoS attacks, but the 'sh!t firewall' of China also automatically blocks it when set by the government or agency who control it's functionality. For slow browsing, or faster with images turned out, use TOR. It's free, and excluding rogue-endpoints is acceptable. If you've got something to hide, then start using a paid for VPN, not Witopia. I'll repeat again, in Beijing, chinese-forums.com is inaccessible. I look forward to the 'new' government in 10 years time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:26 PM Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:26 PM Not blocked here but have had a lot of refresh's to get to it early today. But no problem. And BTW comments like: I look forward to the 'new' government in 10 years time here. Are both counterproductive to any real discussion and only serve to increase the possibility of the forums getting blocked [don't think that will actually happen though- hasn't happened yet as far as I know] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gato Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:28 PM Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:28 PM chinese-forums is accessible for me from Shanghai without proxy, though. Maybe try again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:41 PM Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:41 PM It's not blocked. The server seems to have burped about 40 minutes ago, that might have been it. Post your issues with Witopia here if you want, but I suspect most of us don't have anything to hide, we just like Youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:44 PM Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:44 PM but I suspect most of us don't have anything to hide Why do you think I live where I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imron Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:46 PM Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:46 PM If you've got something to hide, then start using a paid for VPN, not Witopia.Most people don't have something to hide, they just want to get around the GFW so they can use facebook/youtube or any number of other innocuous sites. I'd also be interested to hear more on why you say Witopia is particularly worse that any other paid for VPN? I don't use it myself, preferring an SSH tunnel to my own server, but in China, the reliability and speed compared to TOR is quite significant (or it was last time I tried TOR). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:49 PM Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:49 PM If you've got something to hide, then start using a paid for VPN, not Witopia. I'm starting to get confused: isn't witopia a paid service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzhe Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:58 PM Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 at 01:58 PM The server seems to have burped about 40 minutes ago, that might have been it. Yeah, I noticed that from Germany too, it was fine again a couple of minutes later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liuzhou Posted July 8, 2009 at 02:48 PM Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 at 02:48 PM then start using a paid for VPN, not Witopia Witopia is paid for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted July 8, 2009 at 02:55 PM Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 at 02:55 PM [how come there is no smilie that shows relief by wiping sweat] Witopia is paid for. Good, I was starting to wonder what that credit transaction was for every february. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~zagbie Posted July 17, 2009 at 03:08 PM Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 at 03:08 PM I'm staying in Nanning. I'm from Vietnam. I've arrived here for 1 week and I can't get access to FB, twitter and youtube. how could i know what's going on w/ my friendsin vietnam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrianlondon Posted July 17, 2009 at 03:29 PM Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 at 03:29 PM Email, phone calls, faxes ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~zagbie Posted July 17, 2009 at 03:58 PM Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 at 03:58 PM yeah but we rarely use emails in vietnam anw it's better to communicate through fb )) hope it'll be unblocked soon )))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tai4ji2x Posted July 17, 2009 at 06:21 PM Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 at 06:21 PM anyone else using witopia having trouble with facebook and twitter for the first 3 or 4 minutes (sometimes as much as 10 min)? most other sites which are blocked, such as blogspot, wordpress and xanga, do just fine immediately upon connecting to the VPN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco-polo Posted July 19, 2009 at 04:48 PM Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 at 04:48 PM Quoting james_moat: Also, don't use Witopia. Can't be bothered going into reasons, just use any SSH VPN service, with an final destination hop in a country with loose privacy laws... If you've got something to hide, then start using a paid for VPN, not Witopia.James - when you get a moment, please write up your objections to Witopia. I think it's an excellent service, but if there is some terrible flaw I'd sure like to know about it, as would the others on this forum who have signed up for it after hearing about it here.Also, could you clarify your comments above? In particular, why would you want the final hop to be in a country with loose privacy laws? Surely it's just the reverse, the final hop should be in a country with strict privacy laws so that your data is protected. Also, an SSH VPN is a VPN connection established over an SSH tunnel, right? What is the advantage of this over Witopia's SSL VPN? What 'paid for VPN' do you suggest as an alternative to Witopia (which, incidentally, has an annual fee)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tai4ji2x Posted July 22, 2009 at 08:54 PM Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 at 08:54 PM meanwhile, is anyone else still experiencing what i described in my previous post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muyongshi Posted July 24, 2009 at 11:37 AM Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 at 11:37 AM I was but then I figured out I didn't have "set nameserver" box selected and now, I'm fine just so long as I don't stay on for long periods of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trien27 Posted July 25, 2009 at 10:58 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 at 10:58 PM (edited) yeah but we rarely use emails in vietnam anw it's better to communicate through fb )) hope it'll be unblocked soon )))) If your relatives in Vietnam already has Skype installed, you can talk and use webcam via Skype too for free. Just download it on your computer @ Skype Not only could you use Skype to call and see each other via webcam, you could also chat on it. PS. Before calling, just make sure Skype isn't blocked in China first. or Use Yahoo Messenger by downloading it @ Yahoo messenger, but make sure your relatives in Vietnam has Yahoo messenger first. FB isn't really good for contacting each other online, only occasional chats. It's possible that they might not sign on to FB for a while. Edited July 25, 2009 at 11:04 PM by trien27 additional information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Horhe Posted July 28, 2009 at 10:21 AM Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 at 10:21 AM Could the ban have something to do with this? There's a certain mafia game on Facebook which I've seen quite a few Chinese play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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