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edelweis
12 hours ago, markhavemann said:

I find it a constant frustration that there are basically no transcriptions available for Chinese TV series, so I have decided to start my own transcription project.

 

But what do you use those transcriptions for?

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markhavemann

Thanks vellocetthose are great! 

 

 

edelweis, that's a good question. I basically want them for 2 different reasons: 

 

Firstly:

Reading along while watching/listening is, for me, one of the best and most enjoyable ways of learning. Hard coded subs are fine but kind of annoying if you don't know the word, especially if you aren't really sure of the pronunciation (you aren't familiar with the character and they were speaking really fast). Having transcripts is really useful for copying and pasting the word. You could even get really creative and make an HTML document and use something like "Zhongwen Popup Chinese Dictionary" on Chrome to look things up automatically when click them. 

 

Secondly:

Being able to generate statistics about episodes/series/books is really useful for me. I've made a set of tools to analyze this stuff and generate info for me so that I can make good decisions about what words to learn or preview before approaching an episode/series/book.

 

Below I've attached a really simple one that shows all the unique words (I can see there are 561) that occur in 家有儿女 S01E56 (the transcript itself will follow soon). Next to each word is the number of times that it occurs in the episode as well as the HSK level (if it has one). 

 

You can probably get creative with Excel and filtering and sorting to make this even more useful. You can imagine that if we had an entire series of transcripts then this could be much more informative. 

 

 

 

家有儿女S01E56.xlsx

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Here is a folder on Google Drive with full statistics for 家有儿女 S01 E01-10 along with the transcripts that vellocet provided. There maybe be a few mistakes in the statistics because of the way that I'm breaking up words but as I go through it myself this should be corrected and it's probably at least 90% accurate right now anyway.

 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1w2BPsbMmuruTONmr4xy6s1CwG7IJ5CTd?usp=sharing

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david387

If I wanted to fund a show of my own choosing, would you be open to telling me how to reach out to this service. I like your strategy! :)

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markhavemann

Of course. It's a store on Taobao:

 

【靡尚网拍摄影旗舰店】,復·制这段描述¥yqGDbLNbAjz¥后咑閞手机淘宝或者用浏览器咑閞https://m.tb.cn/h.3qtPhk7?sm=9ce409查看

 

(In case you aren't sure: just copy that link on your phone and open Taobao, it should detect it and ask if you want to visit the store.)

 

But just to explain the process: 

 

Because (I imagine) actually transcribing from the episode would be much more expensive since, even with subtitles, it's a lot more labour intensive with playing and pausing the video all the time, I extract the subtitles as images and make them into a PDF document which I send for them to "录入". Basically the process is: 

 

1. VideoSubFinder to extract the subs as images. https://sourceforge.net/projects/videosubfinder/

2. Powershell script and ImageMagick to crop out the white space. 

3. Python script to join them up into A4 sized images. 

4. Adobe Acrobat to turn the images into a PDF file. 

 

PM me and I'll send you the scripts. 

 

I realise that not everybody may be inclined to go through all of that so I'd be happy to do it for you if you tell me what series you want. I've got the process kind of streamlined but I want to automate it even further.

 

Also, if you are not based in China or can't use Taobao for whatever reason I'd be happy to facilitate that too if you reimburse me over WeChat/Paypal. 

 

Since I would like transcripts for almost any show, I'm happy to put in a bit of work to make it happen. 

 

 

 

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Flickserve

@markhavemann

 

I had a quick look at the excel file on frequencies of characters. Thanks for that. It was pretty interesting to note that I know most of the words. However, when it comes to actually listening, I can’t really understand very much due to speed of delivery and unfamiliarity.

 

Another series with partial subs on this forum is 奋斗. From memory, it goes up to about the 5th episode. 

 

 

Are you based in China?

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Yes I am based in China. 

 

Thanks for pointing out the 奋斗 transcripts, I've found a few which I'll add to the project. 

 

I'm glad you found the word frequencies interesting. I've also found that "knowing" words and actually following them in sentences can be two completely different things. Recently I've tried to make my studying a little more sentence focused. When I find a sentence that I know all the words in but actually don't understand in context, I try to extract a clip of it which I put on my phone. Now I have a little library of sentences that I shuffle through whenever I'm on the bus or have some time to kill. (I'm trying to automate the extraction process too and having transcripts should make that a little easier.) I've found this really helps and also gives me some patterns to call on when I'm talking myself, I think that Glossika may be based on this principle but I much prefer to have sentences that I've chosen for myself and find interesting. 

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Flickserve
2 hours ago, markhavemann said:

When I find a sentence that I know all the words in but actually don't understand in context, I try to extract a clip of it which I put on my phone. Now I have a little library of sentences that I shuffle through whenever I'm on the bus or have some time to kill. (I'm trying to automate the extraction process too and having transcripts should make that a little easier.) I've found this really helps and also gives me some patterns to call on when I'm talking myself, I think that Glossika may be based on this principle but I much prefer to have sentences that I've chosen for myself and find interesting. 

 

You can do this with anki. I set up cards for listening (it repeats the sentence about ten times), shows me the answer and then repeats another 5 times so that I can try to shadow. Just copy the cards you want with the sentence into another anki deck which can go into your phone. Anki will do your shuffling for you. If you use iphone, anki app costs money. Instead, there is a free android version which works quite well if you have android or an old android phone around.

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milkmints

Excited to see a project like this underway! Incidentally I ran the transcript for 奋斗 through CTA the other day and thought to myself "I wish there were more subtitles and transcripts available". 

While studying Japanese, having subtitle files helped me break into watching Japanese tv more comfortably so I'm eager to try that with Chinese

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markhavemann
On 12/29/2018 at 1:33 AM, Flickserve said:

You can do this with anki. I set up cards for listening (it repeats the sentence about ten times), shows me the answer and then repeats another 5 times so that I can try to shadow. Just copy the cards you want with the sentence into another anki deck which can go into your phone. Anki will do your shuffling for you. If you use iphone, anki app costs money. Instead, there is a free android version which works quite well if you have android or an old android phone around.

 

Unfortunately I have an iPhone but I bought Anki a while back since I use it almost everyday. I like your idea of having the sentence repeating a bunch of times and of using Anki to do it in a structure way and I may start doing that too. 

 

The reason that I put them into the music player is so that I can use it as passive listening practice. I found that I wanted something to listen to on the bus/subway or while exercises or doing the dishes/laundry, whatever. At first I tried radio and things like extracted audio from TV shows but if I got distracted or there were words that I didn't know then it was just noise in my ears and not really learning. I decided on sentences that I'm already familiar with but are a little challenging. This way it doesn't matter if I'm not listening all the time and I (should) know all the words in the all sentences, or at least I could probably remember the source of the sentences and then remember the words if I've forgotten them.

 

This way I really only need at most a 15 second stretch of concentration to get a little practice in and it doesn't matter if something else interrupts me or distracts me because it's easy to get back on track when the next sentence starts. 

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北京爱情故事

E01

 

Has been added to the project. 

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爱情公寓

S01E01

 

Has been added to the project. 

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鬼吹灯之精绝古城

E01

 

 

Has been added to the project. 

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I've created a separate topic for 鬼吹灯之精绝古城. I'll be watching a few episodes every week and posting as I go. If anybody wants to join me please do!

 

https://www.chinese-forums.com/forums/topic/57728-watching-with-transcripts-鬼吹灯之精绝古城-candle-in-the-tomb/?tab=comments#comment-447797

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鬼吹灯之精绝古城

E02

 

Has been added to the project. 

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鬼吹灯之精绝古城

E02

 

Has been added to the project. 

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Thanks to a post that I found by Roddy, I've gotten hold of what looks like most or all of 爱情公寓 season 1 and 2 transcripts. Once I've had a chance to go through them and process out all the extra junk I'll add them to the drive. If you want them sooner as they are, please let me know! 

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红楼梦 (1987)

Full Series (36 episodes)

 

三国 (2010)

E01

 

Added to the project.

 

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Not sure if I will get a chance to do an episode of 鬼吹灯之精绝古城 today. Will do my best. 

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