sanchuan Posted February 2, 2023 at 10:32 AM Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 at 10:32 AM @Lu Are you sure they weren't hypercorrecting for 操? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnySideUp Posted February 2, 2023 at 10:36 AM Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 at 10:36 AM 操? https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/zh-hans/李天祿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Posted February 2, 2023 at 10:41 AM Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 at 10:41 AM @sanchuan@SunnySideUp Looks like they were indeed hypercorrecting, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomsima Posted February 2, 2023 at 10:46 AM Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 at 10:46 AM (deleted, repetition of 操 reply, didn't see the next page) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 2, 2023 at 10:52 AM Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 at 10:52 AM 沆瀣一气 as a phrase means collusion or wallowing in the same mire, 沆瀣 is apparently an archaic term for a night miasma. Not seen either character before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic_Duck Posted February 2, 2023 at 01:05 PM Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 at 01:05 PM [deleted lol, didn't this forum use to have a delete post function?] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Posted February 2, 2023 at 01:09 PM Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 at 01:09 PM On 2/2/2023 at 2:05 PM, Demonic_Duck said: [deleted lol, didn't this forum use to have a delete post function?] You can report your own post and ask a moderator to delete it. If it doesn't interfere with the flow of the discussion, we usually do. Happens mostly with accidental double posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insectosaurus Posted February 2, 2023 at 04:48 PM Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 at 04:48 PM On 2/2/2023 at 11:52 AM, Jim said: 沆瀣一气 as a phrase means collusion or wallowing in the same mire, 沆瀣 is apparently an archaic term for a night miasma. Not seen either character before. This is actually a word I encountered quite early on my Chinese journey, thanks to this! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
大块头 Posted April 25, 2023 at 11:21 PM Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 at 11:21 PM 臭氧 "stinky oxygen", or Spoiler ozone 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Demonic_Duck Posted August 7, 2023 at 04:48 AM Popular Post Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 at 04:48 AM On 8/11/2020 at 4:40 AM, Demonic_Duck said: OK, here's one I know hasn't been posted here before, because I just did a forum-wide search with 0 results. ? Weird... when I searched it again with the forum search, it was still throwing up 0 results. Had to Google ? site:https://www.chinese-forums.com/ to find it. Bug I guess? Anyway... I finally saw this character in the wild!!! ...sort of. I guess it was too difficult to input or the font they used didn't have it, because they used "不" as a substitute. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatrix Posted August 11, 2023 at 12:17 PM Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 at 12:17 PM Fascinating ? @Demonic_Duck Do you know the stroke order of ? ? Is it the same as in 不 ? Or first 丅 then 人 ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaelyus Posted August 11, 2023 at 01:07 PM Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 at 01:07 PM On 8/11/2023 at 1:17 PM, calculatrix said: Or first 丅 then 人 ? Graphically, as a derivative of 木, I would guess this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic_Duck Posted August 12, 2023 at 04:58 AM Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 at 04:58 AM Yeah, 丅人 according to Pleco. Even if it had evolved separately, it'd be tough to visually distinguish it from 不 if the stroke order was the same — it's already virtually identical at a glance. My guess is it wouldn't have been assigned a separate Unicode code point if the stroke order was the same... I feel like there are probably other examples of convergent character evolution that are thought of as "the same character" and share the same Unicode code point, but I can't think of one right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatrix Posted September 8, 2023 at 11:38 AM Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 at 11:38 AM 被自杀 Spoiler a death claimed to be a suicide by the authorities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatrix Posted October 17, 2023 at 01:20 PM Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 at 01:20 PM 变色龙 change-color-dragon = Chameleon. It sounds like invented by a toddler. Loving it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatrix Posted October 17, 2023 at 01:37 PM Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 at 01:37 PM On 12/25/2010 at 5:30 AM, anonymoose said: Three very useful words for the nuclear scientists among you: piē 氕 protium dāo 氘 deuterium chuān 氚 tritium I just wanted to post these three and found they are already known here since 2010. I love the sub-atomic pictographic aspect. But I have questions. Of course, these characters are not passed on since Qin-dynasty. Either they were invented in 20th century, or they are older but got a new meaning, when science knew about isotopes. Who decides, which character to use / create, when there are new elements / isotopes / science-thingies discovered? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomsima Posted October 18, 2023 at 04:56 PM Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 at 04:56 PM https://www.zhihu.com/question/454691337?utm_id=0 Interesting question, this answer seems to be the closest thing I could find. Appears to basically suggest that one of the authors of the early Chinese textbooks on this topic appears to have popularised the characters through their use in said textbook, but seems likely that they were following some govt. recommendation. Sure there must be more info on this, there's a huge amount written about atomic energy mid-20th century, enough for an academic research paper I'd imagine... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatrix Posted October 19, 2023 at 12:09 PM Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 at 12:09 PM On 10/18/2023 at 6:56 PM, Tomsima said: one of the authors of the early Chinese textbooks on this topic appears to have popularised the characters Thank you @Tomsima ! The author really must have had fun inventing them. I googled a bit and found this in wikipedia: Nowadays for new Elements there are protocols and procedures to be followed a new element is discovered. an international organization, the IUPAC, gives it an appropriate name the "China National Committee for Terms in Sciences and Technologies" coins a Chinese name and a matching character the character gets inserted into the next release of Unicode For example the element Tennesine received its name "Tennesine" from IUPAC in 2016 the China National Committee for Terms in Sciences and Technologies published its Chinese name and character, tián 鿬, in 2017 the Russian Academy of Sciences even held a naming ceremony in 2017 the character was inserted into Unicode (version 11.0) in June 2018 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Posted November 22, 2023 at 11:56 AM Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 at 11:56 AM 铁将军把门 tiě jiāngjūn bǎ mén a locked door Just now encountered this in a novel. Fortunately it was a person in the story remembering an event that was described earlier in the book or I would have been so confused. As it was, I almost overlooked the term as I already knew what was happening. I wonder if there is a story behind it, or if it's simply a flowery phrase. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted November 27, 2023 at 03:47 PM Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 at 03:47 PM 掛彩 in the sense of receiving an injury rather than hanging out the bunting, though you can see how the derivation works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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